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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (282664)	3/31/2006 8:26:55 PM
From: Road Walker	Respond to of 1573952

re: If GM BK's and toasts all their shareholders...it won't matter. GM won't be able to sell a car in the US anymore... Forget the shareholders, the "folks" that hold the bonds are the important ones.

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (282664)	4/1/2006 11:50:49 AM
From: Taro	Respond to of 1573952

Then a name change will do the trick. Toyota? Taro

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (282664)	4/2/2006 11:38:05 PM
From: Amy J	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573952

"If our answer to the fastest-growing demographic in this country is that we want to make felons of your grandparents and we want to put people in jail who are helping your neighbors and people related to you, then [the Republican Party] we're going to suffer mightily [ for votes ]." "How can you send 11 million people back to the country they came from?" Sen. John McCain cnn.com "You cannot enforce the border without having a temporary guest worker program," Bush said this week. "The two go hand in hand" [ I agree with Bush about making every person count, so the truly criminal people are more easily detected. But I disagree with rewarding illegal behavior by granting citizenship without returning to their country to get in line behind people of legal behavior, because to do otherwise simply creates a magnet for more illegals to come. Of course, if they got rid of the baby-gets-citizenship, you'd probably have a solution to the underlying motivation for illegal immigrants - making their child's life better by having them born in the USA - not sure why no one discusses changing that law in order to remove the underlying incentive? ] But Sen. Evan Bayh, an Indiana Democrat, told CNN the country must "find a way, without rewarding violating the law, to bring [illegal immigrants] out of the shadows, impose fines, criminal background checks, paying back taxes, learning English, those kinds of things. ... But then have some kind of regular status here. Because the truth is that's in our national security interest, too."

To: Jim McMannis who wrote (282664)	4/5/2006 10:31:44 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573952

RE:"The question isn't if GM (and Ford) will file for Chapter 11 or not, because they will. The real question is, will they emerge out of chapter 11 as independent companies or not??" If GM BK's and toasts all their shareholders...it won't matter. GM won't be able to sell a car in the US anymore... I am not sure why Taro thinks Ford will go under......its got a lot of debt but it continues to make money. GM is bleeding badly but they have enough assets to sell that can keep them afloat. However, I think it may be a much smaller company at the end of all its maneuvering.