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To: Lane3 who wrote (15873)	4/4/2006 12:27:31 PM
From: Dale Baker	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541684

Just my wild-arsed guess, but all this profound rhetoric on immigration issues and all the debates in Congress on what to legislate are very, very likely to leave us with more or less the status quo, plus or minus some additional border enforcement. And the troubling, divisive issues will still be there, along with 11 million undocumented folks among us. I don't see a consensus remotely forming around any of the major points. Most people don't want them to be citizens (rewarding bad behavior), we don't a wall to keep them out (so say 69%), and we don't want a guest worker program (apparently). Back to square one.

To: Lane3 who wrote (15873)	4/4/2006 12:48:01 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541684

the real issue that's troubling ordinary Americans - not a growing population of foreigners among us, but rather a growing population of foreigners among us who aren't behaving like immigrants Not sure if Latino reluctance to assimilate is "the" problem but it's something that seems to irk many. For "Latino" do we read "Mexican" or is it all of Latin America, from Guatemala to Chile? And why are they different? Is it the size of the population, so that they can form their own society within the rest of society, just as my German-speaking cousins were able to form a German-speaking enclave in Pennsylvania and my French-speaking cousins were able to form a French-speaking enclave in Louisiana? Or is there something about the culture that's unwilling or unable to melt into the melting pot? Or is it just this -- they don't assimilate because they plan on going back home. Throughout history people have come to America to make money and go home. We just don't count them into the myths and legends about the Melting Pot -- and where did that myth (Melting Pot) get started anyway? What were they melting? Fat? Metal?