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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (184571)4/4/2006 5:24:55 PM
From: neolib  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 281500
 
Many people, including Winston Churchill, foresaw the threat that the rise of Hitler presented. But close minded and indifferent people with the same mindset you display chose NOT TO CONFRONT HIM. They waited.. They appeased... They attempted to ignore him... They said that it was Europe's problem.. They said we shouldn't be involved.

It would have been far better for some people in the aftermath of 1918 to have understood that Nazism could even arise, and what might be done to have prevented it. Thats the real point.



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (184571)4/4/2006 9:10:57 PM
From: cnyndwllr  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Hawk, re: (Me)..The posts of the Hawkmoons usually warn that in the face of something they claim is an "end-of-civilization threat" we have to do something, even if it's wrong.

(You)...Now there you go again.. twisting the facts, and twisting what I'm saying.

I've never said that the Islamo-Fascists represent an "end of civilization threat".

But I have stated that what we have here is a threat that potentially rivals the rise of Nazism, or at least communism, both of which cost the lives of millions of innocent people before they were snuffed out as a viable ideology.


I don't understand. If you're trying to disagree that your position posits the Islamic radical threat as an "end of civilization threat," why would you then immediately equate it to the threat previously posed by Nazism or Communism?

Or maybe you're saying that communism, nazism or radical Islam, ultimately, encompass civilized behavior?

Who knows?

But of course, although you can go on and on about how bad radical Islam is and that we have the "power to pre-empt it," you never seem to want to deal with the fact that the "pre-empt" thing is going really, really badly. And you certainly don't talk very clearly about how we can change that downward spiral.

Here's a hint...there are many instances in life where we face danger and where the best course is to do absolutely nothing. Of course that takes wisdom, courage and a long view. Panic is no friend of survival. Ed