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To: Jim McMannis who wrote (51615)4/7/2006 3:48:48 PM
From: Travis_BickleRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 306849
 
imo the first thing to do is give some employers stiff jail terms for hiring them. the only way to dry up the supply is to dry up the demand.



To: Jim McMannis who wrote (51615)4/7/2006 3:52:50 PM
From: MulhollandDriveRead Replies (3) | Respond to of 306849
 
think the Congress is trying to slither some amnesty through with bogus lies. Dunno if I'm in the majority on that.


i think you are indeed in the majority...

from polls that i have seen, the majority (to the tune of something like 80%) are very much against illegal immigration, and giving amnesty ..it's right up there with the dubai port deal...

the main difference here, and what i find amusing to watch is both parties tripping over themselves to find a way to not offend the emerging illegal voting block, while making it 'appear like' they are cracking down.....much easier to demagogue the port deal

yep, you go after the employers...

we did that in the 80's against businesses that violated environmental laws, big fines and potential imprisonment...it spawned an entire industry around environmental compliance and clean up, and now is considered a routine cost of doing business



To: Jim McMannis who wrote (51615)4/7/2006 4:37:50 PM
From: Lizzie TudorRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 306849
 
I think the Congress is trying to slither some amnesty through with bogus lies.

If you look at the existing immigration legislation, which is wierd beyond belief, it is as a result of BOTH PARTIES being in the pocket of the big business lobby... and trying to sneak in some very unpopular legislation on the voters, which is amnesty and guest workers.

Voters don't want guest workers or amnesty and have made this clear consistently. Even when Bush was riding high in the polls he couldn't get amnesty through.

Last year h1B legislation which is tech guest workers made it through congress, but the house stalled it, because the house is much more concerned about reelection than is congress. Then Bill gates went to washington to lobby for it (after being surprised, I am certain, that the tech lobby holds so little clout these days). I am skeptical that even Bill Gates can do anything about pushing this type of legislation through.

Just pulling up congress.org and reading "letters" is an exercise in the futility of this immigration legislation. Congress lets this pass, and they get the boot, its just that simple it seems to me.