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To: tejek who wrote (283399)	4/8/2006 6:00:57 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1572161

Re: ...I think European countries are still more multiracial monoculture working their way... Nonsense! You mistake "nationalities" for "races"... Although it was common for 19th-century Europe writers and commentators to write on, and speak of, the French "race", the genius of the British "race", or the foibles of the Slavic "race", it no longer is. Scientifically speaking, the very notion of human races has been debunked and all Europeans --be they French, German, Spanish, Polish,...-- view themselves as one big, happy, white family. Re: I still contend that the US has absorbed many more different cultures within its boundaries successfully than Europe has. I agree. The reason is obvious: most immigrants coming from Europe, Asia and the Middle East, however large their numbers, could never --and still can't-- dream of turning whole US cities and counties into "minority enclaves". At best, they can sprawl into little Chinatowns, little Italys, etc. But then, their children will quickly integrate and assimilate into the mainstream monoculture, that is, after one or two generations, they'll speak English at home, go to a (preferably) Judeo-Protestant church, watch football and baseball games, and give up on ever travelling back to where their grandparents came from.... Unfortunately (for your Judeo-Protestant ruling elite, at least), this assimilation recipe doesn't work with Hispanics --and understandably so: Mexico is just a few hours' car-drive away, whole cities harbor Hispanic majorities, Spanish satellite TVs and newspapers make Spanish the US's officious second language.... Somehow, Mexico and Latin America are to the US what (North) Africa is to Europe: successful assimilation relies greatly on the impossibility/difficulty for immigrants to keep in touch with their native countries... I have myself travelled to Canada and the US so I know what it's like to feel thousands of miles away from home. I remember walking along the beach in Santa Monica (LA), I gazed at the sea, the horizon, and thought to myself, "it looks like the North Sea, like Belgium's seafront and yet... it's the Pacific!" When I woke up and had my breakfast, people back home were going to sleep.... nine time zones away. Since most immigrants to the US were not idle rich who could afford to travel back home on vacation, their assimilation has been all the easier. Gus

To: tejek who wrote (283399)	4/8/2006 6:21:54 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Respond to of 1572161

Re: Besides, the fact that the US has genuinely embraced multiracialism makes it easier for US corporations to hire highly skilled, white-collar [nonwhite] workers: Contrariwise, Europeans can't conceive of a computer/finance workplace as other than a lily-white sanctuary.... Bottom line: Europe gets the bums, and the US the brains. I doubt that's true. There have got to be enough multi racial brains to go around. The brains... Cheick Modibo Diarra From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Cheick Modibo Diarra (b. 1952, Nioro du Sahel) is a Malian astrophysicist. After graduating high school in Mali, Cheick Modibo Diarra studied mathematics, physics, and analytic mechanics in Paris at the University of Pierre and Marie Curie, then aerospace engineering at Howard University in Washington, D.C.. He was recruited by Caltech's Jet Propulsion Laboratory where he played a role in several NASA programs, including the Magellan probe to Venus, the Ulysses probe to the Sun, the Galileo spacecraft to Jupiter, and the Mars Observer and Mars Pathfinder. He later became the director of NASA's "Mars Exploration Program Education and Public Outreach." In 1999, he obtained permission from NASA to work part-time in order to devote himself to education development in Africa, founding the Pathfinder Foundation. He took a further sabbatical in 2002 to found a laboratory in Bamako, Mali for the development of solar energy. In 2000 and 2001 he also served as a goodwill ambassador for UNESCO. Cheick Modibo Diarra is currently present of the Virtual African University, based in Kenya. en.wikipedia.org ...and the bums: Last Updated: Thursday, 29 September 2005, 13:30 GMT 14:30 UK Seeking Europe's 'promised land' As hundreds of Africans seek to storm the fences of the Spanish enclaves of Ceuta and Melilla in North Africa - some dying in the process - the BBC News website's Joseph Winter reflects on his trip to meet the migrants in the Moroccan forests near Ceuta. Moussa Sakho from Mali said he went "on the attack" every night. He took a ladder fashioned from branches and whatever else he could get his hands on and tried to get over the imposing double fence topped with razor-wire which separates Morocco from the Spanish enclave of Ceuta. He usually returned to the mountain camps where he lived with other would-be immigrants - with a few cuts and bruises from the Spanish border police and maybe a lungful of tear gas. When I met him, he lived in hope that one day, he would strike it lucky. I have no way of knowing what happened to him - whether he made it, was sent back home, died trying or is now involved in these attempts to rush the fence. Mali is one of the world's poorest countries and Moussa felt he had no future there. He dreamt of being able to find a job where he could earn enough to support his family and maybe buy a few luxuries, like a television or even a car. And he thought he could only do this in Europe - or "Eldorado" as he and the other "comrades" call it. With visas increasingly difficult to come by and airlines refusing to take people without valid papers, Moussa felt Europe's only land borders with Africa offered his best chance. Ceuta and nearby Melilla are magnets for thousands of Africans dreaming of fleeing poverty and conflict from across West and Central Africa. [...] news.bbc.co.uk