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To: LindyBill who wrote (163198)4/9/2006 1:44:26 PM
From: D. Long  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793896
 
But there's no need for us to employ conventional ground forces inside Iran (special operations troops are another matter). We'll have to watch the Iraqi and Afghan borders, but our fight would be waged from the air and from the sea

I think Ralph underestimates the scope of what is to come. This will be full-court press. Iran already has agents in Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, and (no doubt) in Europe and America. I think if it comes to a shootout, the mullahs will use all their assets. That may be a positive - if it means the end of Hezbollah and Iran's proxies inside Iraq.

But I agree with Ralph - we should do "Falluja II", not "Falluja I". Really kick them in the teeth.

Derek



To: LindyBill who wrote (163198)4/9/2006 3:56:06 PM
From: Tom Clarke  Respond to of 793896
 
Report: Ukraine missing warheads may have gone to Iran
By UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL
Published April 4, 2006

MOSCOW -- On April 3 the Russian journal Novaia Gazeta reported that 250 nuclear warheads with a total yield of 20 megatons were not returned by Ukraine to Russia.

Novaia Gazeta suggested the warheads could have been sold to a third country, possibly Iran.

The 200-kiloton warheads were due to be returned to Russia in 1992 after Ukraine declared itself a nuclear-free zone following a payment by Moscow to Kiev of approximately $500 million. The missing warheads were inventoried on papers Ukraine submitted to Moscow that were officially accepted by Russia.

Besides reimbursement, Ukraine was to receive uranium for its reactors from Russia's AES as part of the deal.

Sergey Sinchenko, a member of a parliamentary commission investigating illegal arms trafficking, revealed the discrepancies. According to Sinchenko, the nuclear warheads could remain combat-ready up to at least 2010.

Ukraine's ForUm news agency reported on April 3 that Russian General Staff Chief and Deputy Defense Minister General Yuri Baluyevsky said, "Russia's General Staff has no information about whether Ukraine has given 250 nuclear warheads to Iran or not. I do not comment on unsubstantiated reports."

wpherald.com



To: LindyBill who wrote (163198)4/9/2006 9:53:15 PM
From: bela_ghoulashi  Respond to of 793896
 
The most worrisome possibility is that they may have convinced themselves they can win.

The most worrisome possibility is that our media has convinced them they can win. And that no matter what the outcome, our media will tell them they have won.



To: LindyBill who wrote (163198)4/10/2006 12:36:48 PM
From: Oral Roberts  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793896
 
If Tehran drags us into war, we should make the conflict so devastating and painful that even our allies are stunned.

In a conversation last night with several friends we all came to this conclusion. We have to go with all out shock and awe and make it truly happen. The only comment I want to hear from the civilized world is "Holy Shit!!!"