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To: tejek who wrote (283840)	4/12/2006 4:22:48 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572369

Re: You implied that Europeans handle these issues differently. In fact, the same people in Europe and the US are the perpetrators of racial violence.....right wing nazis or skinheads. Wrong. I contend that, as far as the US Sunbelt is concerned, racism and far-right opinions (on abortion, religion, etc) are much more widespread, much more mainstream, than they are in Europe... As I once put it, rightwing extremism in the US South is not just a "political opinion", it's a lifestyle --a way of life! Hence your dozens of rightwing, racist radio stations, something that would be unthinkable over here in any EU country. Clue: dailykos.com Although they worship the same God and belong to the same Christian sect/denomination, whites and blacks don't attend mass in the same churches!?! And this is 2006 --not 1896! And what of your militias? Are Chris Simcox's Minutemen made up entirely and exclusively of skinheads and neonazis? Actually, Chris Simcox and his associate Gilchrist have claimed repeatedly that they're doing their best to turn down far-right nuts, neonazis and KKK racists.... But then, how many blacks and Latinos do you find among Minutemen? As I once explained on another thread, all of the above give us a clue to why the GOP has been unable --and unwilling-- to clean itself from its racist, far-rightist members. Contrariwise, most, if not all, European rightwing parties have had no difficulties in purging themselves from their far-right leaders. For instance, France's RPR (UMP's precursor) always vowed to stay clear of dealing with the FN and J.-M. Le Pen. Ditto with the UDF (remember what happened to Charles Millon). In Belgium, there's the so-called cordon sanitaire* that Flemish political parties drew between them and the VB. Unfortunately, the GOP can't spin off its far-right constituency lest the latter grow into a Secessionist, Fundamentalist, third party --with a ready majority in the Sunbelt.... Gus (*) millon.org

To: tejek who wrote (283840)	4/12/2006 4:45:55 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1572369

Re: It may have lasted only 15 years in Europe but many millions more Jews died than blacks in that short period of time. Wrong. The transatlantic slave trade cost Africa tens of millions of lives... pbs.org Re: And what about the Romanish? How many have died or been persecuted for their gypsy ways? Well over SEVEN million. Re: And why are the Muslims in France rioting if things are so great for them there. "Muslims in France" are not seeking redress for over 200 years of racism, segregation and racial terrorism à la KKK. As we both pointed out, France --and Europe at large-- is going through what the US experienced in the 1960s --civil rights unrest. However, unlike what happened to Dr Martin Luther King, Malcom X and their prominent white fellow travellers --namely, JFK and RFK-- I don't expect that Europe's pro-immigrant leaders will be assassinated by their rightwing opponents... unless prompted by the American Svengali --clue: Message 18324689 Gus