To: Cogito who wrote (75360 ) 4/13/2006 1:58:27 PM From: Dan B. Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568 Re: "Did we really find these massive quantities of raw materials? I haven't seen evidence of that." Absolutely. And stored in camouflaged underground bunkers, no less. You shouldn't have any trouble finding evidence of that. The Kay and Dulfer reports state they found evidence that Saddam sought to maintain his capabilities, and these hidden materials were obviously a part of that, IMHO. Re: "I think it would have been prudent to give them that time, despite the fact that cooperation may not have been perfect." Cooperation obviously, was far less than perfect as was Saddam's historical penchant, and I truly feel Bush was right on this one. Trusting Saddam wasn't a reasonable option. His history was fraught with deceiving inspectors. The evidence is that he didn't let up with this uncooperative behaviour. I feel Bush did do everything he could to avoid war. Saddam is proven to have been cheating again. Re: "love the line you put in bold, from Bush's State of the Union address, 2003: "Trusting in the sanity and restraint of Saddam Hussein is not a strategy, and it is not an option." That is a classic straw-man propaganda line. It's a meaningless argument." It is most certainly NOT a straw man argument nor a meaningless one, RE: "Nobody, even the most vocal opponents to the war, ever suggested that we trust in Saddam's sanity or restraint." In point of fact, waiting on inspections clearly amounts to trusting Saddam's restraint. We know that he continued to line up procurement of banned stuff despite inspections, and therefore know that inspections, no fly zones, and embargoes were in fact failing to keep him honest. Certainly Bush and I disagree with you, and had real concern you don't share. Concern which was proven worthy, as touched upon here. Dan B.