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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: American Spirit who wrote (75372)	4/14/2006 8:27:45 PM
From: lorne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

Author: Bill Clinton gave Iran bomb plan N.Y. Times reporter James Risen says harebrained scheme to foil Tehran likely helped advance program April 14, 2006 In his last year of office, President Clinton approved of an unusual scheme to transfer classified data that likely helped Iran advance its nuclear weapons program, according to New York Times reporter James Risen in his new book "State of War." Risen says the CIA used a double-agent Russian scientist to hand over a blueprint for a nuclear bomb to Iran. The White House plan actually was to derail the Iranian program by passing on fatal flaws, says Risen, but the deliberate errors were so rudimentary they would have been easily fixed by Russian nuclear scientists, reported the online Post Chronicle, which said the story was recounted last night by radio host and former Justice official Mark Levin. Risen's book has been in the news for its revelations about the Bush administration's controversial NSA domestic anti-terror surveillance operation. The Clinton operation, in early 2000, was code named Operation Merlin and "may have been one of the most reckless operations in the modern history of the CIA," Risen writes. A defector from Russia was to offer Tehran the blueprint for a "firing set," the sophisticated mechanism that triggers a nuclear explosion. CIA officers told the Russian the Iranians already had that technology and the scheme was to find out the full extent of Tehran's nuclear capability. But the Russian inserted a note in the package indicating he could help fix the flaws if he were paid the right price. Iran's announcement Monday that it successfully has enriched uranium was the third major development this year on the way to producing an atomic bomb, leaving only one more step. That next development – metalizing the enriched uranium to fit it into a warhead – could come as soon as four months from now, says author Jerry Corsi, who has watched the predictions in his book "Atomic Iran" unfold since it was published one year ago. In a nationally televised speech Monday, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said that with the production of enriched uranium, "I formally declare that Iran has joined the club of nuclear countries." The audience, which included top military commanders and clerics, broke into cheers of "Allahu akbar!" or "Allah is greatest!" In January, Iran successfully tested a missile with solid fuel, and last week, a U.S. official reported Iran now has ballistic missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads. Tehran has rejected a demand by the U.N. Security Council to stop all uranium enrichment activity by April 28. worldnetdaily.com

To: American Spirit who wrote (75372)	4/26/2006 12:20:37 AM
From: Dan B.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

Re: "Bush was referring to the mobile labs which the Washington Post writes about today as being completely discredited claims by Bush's own intel experts. Clearly, Bush lied and that statement proves it." No, that statement most certainly does not prove anyone lied. Other experts disagreed, and for good reasons, for a long time, if not still. Three teams were sent to analyze the trailers, 2 of them felt differently, while the third didn't conclude what they were for when Bush spoke. The day before Bush spoke, CIA and DIA reported the trailers were pretty clear evidence of WMD activities. So far as I've found, the design and equipment aboard was considered unsuitable for hydrogen production as well as for WMD production by many (though some did see a WMD production likelihood). To my knowledge, while Britain sold targeting ballon systems, for instance (and one to Iraq, though nothing similar to these production trailers), mobile hydrogen production trailers remain unheard of elsewhere, and an unlikely and inefficient method of providing hydrogen for balloons (with an Iraqi of two testifying that the gas was provided to targeting balloon systems such as one Iraq bought from Britain - from typical fixed locations - in canisters). Re: "You call Saddam uncooperative, but for an arrogant blowhard dictator he cooperated a lot. He let the UN inspectors go anywhere they wanted in his country, even the palaces." This is highly misleading, as a decade of experience had shown us. Saddam's timetable ruled, and to the extent it didn't, moving operations routinely took place. This activity did not cease after inspections resumed. We have uncovered the fact that Saddam still (about when inspections resumed) sought things such as banned missile fuel and soviet tank killers, and had arranged for a very sneaky method of acquiring and hiding such purchases. Re: "Of course Saddam was a highly noxious and suspicious character..." There ya go...but worse too, far worse as you know. He was a known murderer. Known to pay suicide bombers families. Known to favor the destruction of America. He WAS believed by many, from countless reports before Bush's time and after, of supporting Al Qaeda itself, and Islamic extremists in general (and of course, still is so believed). Of course, what he was KNOWN to have done and believed in, was reason enough for war in the age after 911. Re: "lying to congress is grounds for impeachment, and they did it." You have no basis to say that, seen here. Dan B.