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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (185859)	4/28/2006 11:17:48 AM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

Must have something to do with how my mother used to tell me that the the only rights I had were to move out, or do as she told me.. Heredity and environment, working together to produce...you. g. Ed

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (185859)	4/28/2006 1:41:31 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 281500

Which brings us to tradable citizenships: <mother used to tell me that the the only rights I had were to move out, or do as she told me..> To rid ourselves of the blight of serfdom, we need to define just who owns what. I think citizens own a country and that should be specifically apportioned much as shareholders own companies. Countries which have produced high value would be owned by the descendants of those whose ancestors have done good things which create high value. Those who lived like chimps would find there is not much of value. Politicians coming up with dopey value-reducing ideas would find the share price dropping and shareholders, aka citizens, would soon turf them out. If importing another million low-ability Mexican would enhance the USA, then that would be done with enthusiasm. I suspect it would not enhance the USA's value. Numbers alone doesn't add value. Look at Bangladesh for example. They have the numbers. India does too, but what a poverty stricken place. Check out any number of African countries. Undocumented Americans would have to do what mother says or leave home. American children aren't state property which "leaves home". Your analogy with your upbringing is understandable, but my offspring are not your property to order around in the way that pleases you. Even if they are: <... 18 year olds [who] WASTE two years of their lives working at low-paying, post-high school, jobs, before they ever get to technical school or college, and most lack any real skills.> You and Geode, Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, ... birds of a feather. It is fun to find something in common between you and Geode. One person's waste of two years is another's huge golf holiday. Mqurice