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To: carranza2 who wrote (17936)	5/7/2006 9:41:21 PM
From: Metacomet	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542970

Always fascinating when the kernel of a topic becomes totally obscured by competing agendas. The Cole-Hutchins controversy, at its core, is whether the Administration is using the succesful disinformation methods used in the Iraqi travesty to create another August product introduction. It is painfully relevant to the cause of more war if the Iranian nut case has threatened to destroy Israel. It is equally relevant if he did not make such a claim. For my part, I would like our next war to be based on a little more than a sloppy translation. I hold little hope of this administration seeking such a lofty standard however. The Congress is in play.....

To: carranza2 who wrote (17936)	5/7/2006 9:47:21 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542970

Hitchens is rather snarky about Cole, but God, he's funny. Cole doesn't come across funny at all. I adore Hitchens, even when he's wrong, which is not often.

To: carranza2 who wrote (17936)	5/8/2006 9:40:44 AM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 542970

ell, c2, you continue to misstate my statements. The Hitchens-Cole case is not about whether both sides engage in personal attacks but whether there exists a large scale attempt to use personal attacks on commentators some on the right consider "left" wing. Rather than engage the substance of their remarks. So we've been burdened with charges of traitors, anti-semites, "gotcha" quote selection, and so on. It's a political strategy which appears in the Hitchens-Cole dispute. And should be read as such. There is much of substance to disagree with one another about Iran, in this case, or the Israeli-Palestinian issues to take another. But these right wing pundits have decided they will not do that. Just personally attack folk who have different views. And, as a result, serious debate about serious issues is badly damaged.