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To: thames_sider who wrote (18524)	5/13/2006 6:09:12 AM
From: Dale Baker	Respond to of 541789

The Dallas suburb I grew up in was another 10 miles north of where you stayed and the current growth is another 10-20 miles north of there. Nobody walks outside their own housing developments, which of course have no shopping, restaurants or other amenities. Very few kids can walk to school. Ditto workplaces, churches, etc. That's what the car is for. Last year I revisited Canterbury where I spent my junior year of university. It is a classic High Street town with so much within a 1-2km walk. Old American towns like that are pretty much dead, killed by neglect and the WalMartization of American shopping. They certainly don't build them like that any more.

To: thames_sider who wrote (18524)	5/13/2006 8:52:26 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541789

Dale left out the kid factor. People with kids live in the burbs because the schools are better and they feel more protected from crime and libertines. Also, housing ample enough for bigger families is more affordable farther out. Generally the people having big families and wanting a conservative environment in which to raise them are red. If they aren't red before they move to the burbs, they get converted.

To: thames_sider who wrote (18524)	5/13/2006 9:22:47 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541789

Since we used to walk to do our shopping in the UK I decided to continue it when we moved back to the US. I take as many kids as I can, often my husband, and we all wear backpacks. It's about 3 miles round trip- so it's good exercise, and it's family time. I have NEVER seen anyone else walking to this particular grocery store to do their shopping. Another grocery store, which is in the center of town, and much nearer high density low income residential areas, has a lot of walk in clients (mostly Hispanic)- but the grocery we go to is on the edge of town, and surrounded my expensive single family homes (600k-1.8 million).