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To: JDN who wrote (168480)	6/4/2006 6:12:23 AM
From: kumar	Respond to of 793912

JDN, no offense intended... When I pledged allegiance during my Naturalization ceremony, I said all all the words, till it came to "God". At that time I kept my mouth shut, and no fuss. I was just silent. The choice there is America to me...

To: JDN who wrote (168480)	6/4/2006 6:31:36 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793912

IMHO anyone who feels they are not disposed to Pledge their allegiance to their country needs to find another country. I agree with that. I'm just saying that declining to recite THE Pledge is not the same thing as declining to pledge one's allegiance to the country. It's not the perfect proxy you're making it out to be. There are plenty of people whose allegiance to the country is firm but who won't recite that particular set of words. If a man declined to have a ceremony each year to renew his marriage vows, would you conclude that he doesn't love his wife? If so, then there is only a handful of loving husbands in this country.

To: JDN who wrote (168480)	6/5/2006 12:56:14 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793912

Some people have religious objections to saying the Pledge, even before "under God" was added. Jehovah's Witnesses, for one. Doesn't mean they don't love America. I used to have a philosophical objection to saying the Pledge during the Civil Rights era. Where I lived, there wasn't justice for black people. Our principal flew a Confederate flag on the flagpole above the American flag, to symbolize his antipathy to integration. I used to remain standing during the pledge but not say it when I went to that school, and if anybody asked me why, I'd tell them. I never got into any serious trouble. My teachers liked me. Kids used to tell me, in private, that they admired me for saying what I thought. I love America. Even say the pledge, now. One of the things I love about America is tolerance for dissent.