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To: Claude Cormier who wrote (12707)6/5/2006 7:26:27 PM
From: koan  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 78413
 
Claude, look how GWB uses gay marrriage and other wedge issues to divide our country. And especially right now when the whole world seems on the verge of explosion.

I know you have issues re GWB and this is not directed at you. But as a conservative I hope you can see anyone who cannot see GWB for what he is, and represents, cannot possibly have a sophisticaeted view of the world. Like the prime minister of Canada.

GWB said the gay marriage issue is at the top of his list. Top of his list?? To save the institution of marriage. Gay marriage has nothing to do with heterosexual marriage. What kind of nonsense thinking is that?

Talk about torured thinking. That is the same type of nonsense thinking that got us into Iraq and ran our deficits up so high our entire economy and currency may well collapse.

We have so many huge problems, most of them created by GWB himself and he continues to take this line. Besides that, it is blatantly discriminatory in the most venel and vulgar manner. 50 years from now these gay bashers will be seen the same way segregationist's are today.

The whole time I fought segregation in the 60's I did it with my jaw dropped wondering how any ethical sane person could possible support segregation?? The majority of our entire southern states thought segregation was just fine.

Kerry and Gore didn't didn't run filthy campaigns anywhere near as much as GWB. Can the conservatives not see what Rove and bush are doing with these wedge issues, or do they not care??

GWB and co. have used these types of filthy politics and wedge issues from the beginning. It is slimy, slimy, slimy and how can anyone defend that sort of behavior?

They say the dems can best run govenment, but can't get elected and republicans can get elected, but can't govern.

Soooo true. I blmae the people for that one.

Remember Reagan lets aids run for a long time before he took action. Because it was mostly a gay problem. Many religious leaders said it was gods punishment. Talk about 13th century thinking!



To: Claude Cormier who wrote (12707)6/5/2006 8:22:57 PM
From: LoneClone  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 78413
 
My take on Harper is that he is a fellow-traveller of the Straussians who surround GWB.

One of Leo Strauss's core teachings was that it is necessary, even vital, for elites to deceive the public for their own good. When you alloy this with Harper's past as the ideologue who headed the hard right lobby group National Citizen's Coalition, and mix in what we've seen since the election -- a scattershot approach which appears to privilege winning a majority in the next election above all else -- and you get a rather terrifying amalgam.

If Harper does manage to win a majority I am fearful he will try to out-Bush Bush.

BTW, have you noticed that Bush is a New Englander who pretends to be a Texan, while Harper is an Ontarian who pretends to be an Albertan?

LC



To: Claude Cormier who wrote (12707)6/6/2006 2:21:38 AM
From: onepath  Respond to of 78413
 
Perspective?

1) Canada is unified.

2) Quebec wants Kyoto.

3)Canada went from huge deficits to budget surpluses and our dollar increased by 40% with a Liberal gov.

4)Martin did send troops to Afgan.That was my point.Cdns did not want that and then they elected Harper who has increased that role.

5)Respect...Harper does not evan have the courage to face the media unless it is scripted.

6) Canada does not want or need a rehash of gay marriage.

7)Lemming I think so.Watch GWB then watch Harper.Lemmings follow.

P.S. Thank You for a lot of good investment information.



To: Claude Cormier who wrote (12707)6/6/2006 10:22:22 AM
From: AreWeThereYet  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78413
 
Sending troops to Afgan is an international obligation, Afgan is different from Iraq and Canadian is trying to put the country back to order. Harper is not perfect but so far he is doing better than I thought. I hope he won't follow Brian Mulroney's footstep, BM was a good leader in his first term too.