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To: Road Walker who wrote (290203)	6/6/2006 7:29:32 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1572594

re: Bush spends more than Clinton, who spent more than Bush Sr., who spent more than Reagan who spent more than Carter... Relative to revenue? If your talking about big spenders, revenue isn't the issue, spending is. Of course revenue is important when your talking about the budget balance, but larger revenue doesn't make you less of a spender. Re: I won't support the Re publican's overspending any more than I support the Democrat's overspending. But the issue was "tax and spend Democrats" supposedly being a myth. Its far from that. It is a myth. Both Bush 1 and Reagan raised taxes (Reagan after he cut them, and realized the damage he was doing to the country). Kennedy cut taxes. Clinton "slowed the growth of government", dramatically... one of the things was a historic reforming welfare. Bush passed one of the biggest new entitlements since Roosevelt. 1 - If Republicans are also tax and spenders, even if the where bigger taxers and spenders than the Democrats, that would not make "tax and spend Democrats" a myth. It would just mean that "tax and spend Republicans" is also true. 2 - Reagan was a net tax cutter. Also there was no damage to realize. Kennedy did indeed cut taxes, and it was a good thing, but not to many other 20th century Democratic presidents followed that pattern. Clinton moved the growth of government from taxes to regulation, but new regulation still makes for a larger more intrusive government, and he increased taxes. Also Clinton was able to cut military spending so much because of the end of the cold war which Reagan's spending increases helped bring about. Re: "One of the things was a historic reforming welfare." - Largely a child of the Republican congress. Re: "Bush passed one of the biggest new entitlements since Roosevelt." Technically true because there haven't been many new entitlements since Roosevelt. Johnson increased entitlements more than Bush, but I agree Bush is a big spender. I consider it one of the most clear failures of his presidency. The myth is that there is a difference between Reps and Dems. The biggest difference between politicians is the pragmatic (what benefits the people) and the ideological (what looks good to the base). The base/ideology is different. Also I would say the pragmatic side of the politicians isn't as much "what benefits the people", as much as it is "what can get me votes and or money". Its pragmatic for the politician, not necessarily for the country.