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To: Bill who wrote (7829)6/8/2006 1:20:00 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 14758
 
This liberal doesn't know whether it will be good or bad news, because unfortunately I can't see the future. I know he is already a martyr- but I don't know if his death will inspire more recruits. If it does inspire more recruits, then it was not particularly good news. It's a question of looking at the repercussions, and there is more to consider than just his death. If only the equations were so simple. It's possible Zarqawi was actually causing some disruption to AQ. If he was a problem for them, removing him could be seen as a negative for the US- since whatever aids AQ hurts the US.

I realize the above has a lot of nuance in it, and I'm certainly drawing no firm conclusions, because we really don't know what's going to happen down the road- but unfortunately, with the Iraq situation, nuance is often all we have. However much we might want clear wins, there don't seem to be many. See this :

Zarqawi Scheduled for Martyrdom

June 7, 2006: The relationship between terrorist leader Abu Musab al Zarqawi and and the mainline al Qaeda leadership continues to deteriorate. Zarqawi's recent audio messages have not only attacked the U.S. and the Shia-dominated government in Iraq, but also Iran. He's even claiming that the U.S., Iran, and Shia in general, are in cahoots to destroy Islam. He has also called for continued attacks against Shia.

Except for his verbal attacks on the U.S. and the Iraqi government, he is almost totally distanced himself from the central leadership. Other al Qaeda leaders have been trying to down play anti-Iranian and anti-Shia rhetoric, and have been strongly discouraging attacks on civilians.

Given that Zarqawi has become a loose cannon and that his actions are handicapping Al Qaeda's efforts, it seems reasonable to expect that an accident may befall him at some point in the near future. If handled right it can be made to look like he went out in a blaze of glory fighting American troops or that he was foully murdered. Either way, al Qaeda gets rid of a problem and gains another "martyr."

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I will not be interested in pursuing this, because I see no point. But since you chose to copy my post, I thought you should have the benefit of my thinking on the matter.



To: Bill who wrote (7829)6/8/2006 1:26:12 PM
From: Proud_Infidel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 14758
 
BERG: Well, you know, I'm not saying Saddam Hussein was a good man, but he's no worse than George Bush. Saddam Hussein didn't pull the trigger, didn't commit the rapes.

cnn.com



To: Bill who wrote (7829)6/8/2006 2:08:43 PM
From: michael97123  Respond to of 14758
 
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To: Bill who wrote (7829)6/8/2006 6:34:53 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (6) | Respond to of 14758
 
American victories against terrorists are not good news to liberals - their need to spin Zarqawi's death as a negative is evidence of this.



To: Bill who wrote (7829)6/8/2006 7:13:33 PM
From: michael97123  Respond to of 14758
 
There are some bigger idiots than you and me on SI, Bill. And you neatly got them all in one post. Gotta love that Ralph Emerson guy.