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Politics : GOPwinger Lies/Distortions/Omissions/Perversions of Truth -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (68783)	6/13/2006 10:41:40 PM
From: puborectalis	Respond to of 173976

The Oil and Coal Spinmeisters will do everything in their capitalist power to stifle the effort.Congress NEEDS to be accountable.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (68783)	6/13/2006 10:51:45 PM
From: puborectalis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

US image in world.............http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/06/13/news/pew1.php

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (68783)	6/13/2006 11:02:02 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

"We ignorned warnings about al-Qaeda and we know what happened. " Before 911, for every warning about Al-Qaeda type threats, there were hundreds or thousands that we refused to respond to for good reason. The American Consiousness was absolutely against responding with force to such non-military and obscure threats. Al-Qaeda was some vague and obscure (to mainstream America) foreign cultural force that was operating to repel Russian oppressors and in support of something few of us understood (Taleban) that could only be explained through intricate knowledge of Afghan lifestyle and history. "We ignorned warnings about sectarian strife in Iraq. Look what happened." We viewed The Bathist Regime of Iraq as a secular government ruling over one culture of like minded people. That view was uniformed. I still hear Bush critics talking about what Iraqis want as if Iraq were a united monoculture. There were plenty of warnings about what would take place once the regime was defeated. The goal was to introduce the idea of a liberal democracy as an alternative to extreme sectarian violence. That is still the goal and still has potential to succeed. The worst case I can imagine now is three autonomous regions instead of one nation. Which would not be too bad. "We ignorned warnings about Katrina. Look what happened. Every year we have hundreds of warnings during the hurricane season. We have known for several decades what the risks were. We have had several near misses and Katrina was following a similar pattern as those. We also have hundreds of warnings of earth quakes, volcanos, tornados, plague, pestilance, drought, economic collapse, invasions, astroids, etc. All have some validity. "Now, we are ignoring warnings about climate change." I don't think any of these things have been ignored. There is a difference between the caution of wise counsel when assessing risks and making reasonable preparations vs politicizing science. "when the search for truth is confused with political advocacy, the pursuit of knowledge is reduced to the quest for power." (Alston Chase) Remember 'Eugenics'? Very popular a few years ago especially in Nazi Germany but it had the attention and support of prominent politicians world wide. Supporters like Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Winston Churchill, Oliver Wendell Holmes, Louis Brandeis, Alexander Graham Bell, Margaret Sanger; Luther Burbank; Leland Stanford, H. G. Wells; George Bernard Shaw; and many others. The outcome was devastating. Remember 'Vernalization'? The result was famines that killed millions, and purges that sent hundreds of dissenting Soviet scientists to the gulags or the firing squads.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (68783)	6/14/2006 4:38:18 AM
From: GROUND ZERO™	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

Hey, you can talk about the global warming issue if you like, but I'm more concerned about the spotted towel... we went to Bed, Bath, and Beyond yesterday and they told us that they have not received a shipment of the spotted towel for many months now, that the spotted towel has become so rare it is now on their endangered inventory list... my concern is that the next generation may never see the spotted towel except in pictures and in rare snapshots... I remember when I was a kid, we had plenty of spotted towels in the closet, but not today... this is a concern to me, you can make fun of it if you want, but this is some legacy we're leaving our grandchildren, a world without spotted towels... GZ