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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (189398)6/15/2006 3:17:00 AM
From: Elroy  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
But you already have. You said that Arab countries chucking out all their Jews after 1948 was "cause and effect" as if it were a natural reaction.

I didn't say it was a morally appropriate reaction, just that establishment of Israel was the cause and the expulsion was the effect. Don't try to change the discussion (of whether US support for Israel today is in the interests of the US and the planet) into "have the Arabs behaved admirably?". No one sensible wants to take that side!

Suppose we did withdraw support, who in the Arab would be strengthened? Moderates who want democracy, or Islamists who want jihad?

Well the question is whether the US and planet would be better off, not whether a messed up region would be stengthened. Personally I think the US should disengage from a war which is not of the US's making, not in the US's interest, and appears to have NO long term solution. Let the interested parties fight it or resolve it themselves.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (189398)6/15/2006 9:41:15 AM
From: michael97123  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Lets give Leroy what he wants. What if the arabs overran israel in 1948 or 1967? How much better would the world be now. No bin laden, no corrupt arab regimes, no problems for the Pals, no ayotollahs in iran and OIL at $30. NOT!! Add to that the potenital the soviets had to overrun arabia and control the oil and/or a conflagration with the US.