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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (189407)	6/15/2006 9:58:14 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"And when you forget, it the job of the pragmatists like me, as well as the conservatives and everyone else, TO REMIND YOU that sometimes we have to bring ourselves down to the level of our enemies, so they have no doubt that we can engage in the same measure of brutality as themselves." I wouldnt word it as starkly as you have but i do agree. By the way i think Hillary gets it too. We cant allow these folks to win. We have to save Eleuthra from the Burka in spite of herself.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (189407)	6/15/2006 9:59:34 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

cnn.com Like the israelis now do, we have to hunt these guys down and kill them.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (189407)	6/15/2006 10:21:40 AM
From: jttmab	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Our enemies must NEVER BE PERMITTED TO FORGET that our desire to be civilized, tolerant, and secular is NOT a weakness of character on our part. And if they choose to mis-calculate and pick a fight with us, or support those who have, then we can get just as "down and dirty" as themselves. Let's see if I got this correct...Our desire to be civilized isn't as strong as you might think; it still allows us to be as uncivilized as the lowest slugs on the planet. I would have put the [your] two sentences in separate posts and hope that no one would have noticed. jttmab