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To: Elroy who wrote (190649)	7/2/2006 2:13:12 AM
From: bentway	Respond to of 281500

Here's a profile of who the detainees in Gitmo ARE and how they were "captured" on the "battlefield": law.shu.edu ( Psst! The chimp seems to be outright LYING about a lot of these guys. Maybe they were "dangerous" to the Afghans and Pakis that handed them over? Got a beef with a guy? Sell him to the dumbass Americans! ) "1. Fifty-five percent (55%) of the detainees are not determined to have committed any hostile acts against the United States or its coalition allies. 2. Only 8% of the detainees were characterized as al Qaeda fighters. Of the remaining detainees, 40% have no definitive connection with al Qaeda at all and 18% are have no definitive affiliation with either al Qaeda or the Taliban."... "This 86% of the detainees captured by Pakistan or the Northern Alliance were handed over to the United States at a time in which the United States offered large bounties for capture of suspected enemies."... "The United States promised (and apparently paid) large sums of money for the capture of persons identified as enemy combatants in Afghanistan and Pakistan. One representative flyer, distributed in Afghanistan, states: Get wealth and power beyond your dreams....You can receive millions of dollars helping the anti-Taliban forces catch al-Qaida and Taliban murders. This is enough money to take care of your family, your village, your tribe for the rest of your life. Pay for livestock and doctors and school books and housing for all your people.16 Bounty hunters or reward-seekers handed people over to American or Northern Alliance soldiers in the field, often soon after disappearing;17 as a result, there was little opportunity on the field to verify the story of an individual who presented the detainee in response to the bounty award. Where that story constitutes the sole basis for an individual’s detention in Guantanamo, there would be little ability either for the Government to corroborate or a detainee to refute such an allegation."

To: Elroy who wrote (190649)	7/2/2006 6:26:08 AM
From: geode00	Respond to of 281500

Don't forget the Gitmo children. ====== "...Three boys aged between 13 and 15 are among about 660 inmates at the controversial camp, a US military official told the Guardian, on condition of anonymity. The official would not disclose their nationalities but said they had been brought from Afghanistan this year on suspicion of terrorism.... But the children would still be held indefinitely and would not be granted access to lawyers, he said, because the US continues to view them as "enemy combatants" - a term it has used to argue that the Geneva Conventions do not apply to the inmates, who have not been charged with any crimes...." guardian.co.uk

To: Elroy who wrote (190649)	7/2/2006 11:45:38 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

who was judged an illegal combatant and sent to Gitmo, who was placed in Afghan prison, and who was just let go? I don't. I certainly have a better idea about the criteria than you do. And the military lawyers who swarm around such operations, and their legality, certainly have a better idea than both of us. Of course, you don't have any alternatives for where to hold such dangerous people, except to let them go. Do they think they would be better treated if we returned them to their countries of origin? Hawk