To: TigerPaw who wrote (24303 ) 7/4/2006 7:04:15 AM From: 2MAR$ Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 28931 They say that good health is just the slowest way to die. Yep , birth to death for all general purposes does tend to show that even the fate of our lives demonstrates a beginning & an end ...and we clearly do travel along in a definite linear fashion . For the individual time does have an end . Death is for all practical purposes is absolute . ;) Our lives do also tend to mimic general evolution , with growth some may have the chance to expand and branch out adding some new appendages of skills & knowledge which modern science does offer so many new interconnected fields of study , and learning to connect a few of the dots together of the ongoing "Big Picture Show " . Hope , faith, and prayer does not change the inevitability of death or change the fact of it .Belief in "God " and an afterlife does not change this . But perhaps there is an inherent value in the elemental practices that were found in religion that mimics the same in art , philosophy & science in that could fall into the realm of mediation of the senses from the point of self~reflection from which a similar deeper pattern recognition can be found & obtained . In all these four great "spiritual paths " ....science /art /philosophy / religion , man has been able to test out hypothesis & explore himself in some solitude . The modification of religion by science as time has expanded forward , is an evolution itself which seems only to enhance the former by offering even deeper pattern recognition into time & ongoing creation , upon which to reflect , imo . Fortunately science as time passes has naturally evolved to become more organized which has led to many wonderful interdisciplinary discoveries . Science still has to some lessoned extent the remains of some tribalization , but has been one of the most powerful instruments & agents of change for doing away with racial & nationalist hatreds . As for religion in general though , God may have intended it first as a gift at the beginning but later on in time the Devil taught man to organize it . If the main purpose of religion is to know and love God , it generally fails even the most basic litmus test . ;-)