To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (190956 ) 7/5/2006 2:49:06 AM From: Elroy Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500 Somehow, being an ethnic state doesn't raise red flags anywhere else - why only Israel? If Kurdistan comes into being, should we stop supporting it because it's an ethnic state that will discriminate against Arabs? Why is national self-determination called a good thing for everybody else but the Jews? As you said America is the exception, not the rule. My point is not that Israelis should not be allowed to attempt to create an ethnic state for themselves, just that the effort doesn't deserve American support, especially when it displaces another ethnic group. If Israelis were attempting to live together in harmony in ONE state (call it Greater Pasreal) which included Gaza and West Bank, and gave equal rights and citizenship to the appropriate Pal refugees, then I would say America should wholeheartedly support that effort, but that is not the case. The moment Israel said "this is land for our ethnic group and not for your ethnic group, even though you have been here for centuries" they have argued that all men are not created equal, rather the children of Jewish mothers are entitled to more than the children of non-Jewish mothers. That's unAmerican, and that's why America should not support a country with that type of foundation.This is a serious question to point out a serious double standard. It's not a double standard at all, its a common objection. Whenever one ethnic group in a multi-ethnic region tries to turn the multi-ethnic region into a region devoted to its own ethnicity and not the ethnicity of the rest of the population, virtually everyone objects. Look at the Balkans, Rwanda, and even the pogroms against the Jews that went on throughout history - they stem from one ethnic group casting out another, and it is universally viewed as morally wrong. And on a final note, if the Jews want to choose a location on the planet to fight for a gain a Jewish nation, they couldn't have chosen a worse location. Even if Israel kills all the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank, it's not like the country is then bordering anyone who accepts its existence. Where's the endgame that convinces the remaining displaced Arab Muslims that they like Israel?