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To: michael97123 who wrote (191181)	7/7/2006 12:44:19 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Que up "Masters of War" and listen to it ten times. Come you masters of war You that build all the guns You that build the death planes You that build the big bombs You that hide behind walls You that hide behind desks I just want you to know I can see through your masks You that never done nothin' But build to destroy You play with my world Like it's your little toy You put a gun in my hand And you hide from my eyes And you turn and run farther When the fast bullets fly Like Judas of old You lie and deceive A world war can be won You want me to believe But I see through your eyes And I see through your brain Like I see through the water That runs down my drain You fasten the triggers For the others to fire Then you set back and watch When the death count gets higher You hide in your mansion As young people's blood Flows out of their bodies And is buried in the mud You've thrown the worst fear That can ever be hurled Fear to bring children Into the world For threatening my baby Unborn and unnamed You ain't worth the blood That runs in your veins How much do I know To talk out of turn You might say that I'm young You might say I'm unlearned But there's one thing I know Though I'm younger than you Even Jesus would never Forgive what you do Let me ask you one question Is your money that good Will it buy you forgiveness Do you think that it could I think you will find When your death takes its toll All the money you made Will never buy back your soul And I hope that you die And your death'll come soon I will follow your casket In the pale afternoon And I'll watch while you're lowered Down to your deathbed And I'll stand o'er your grave 'Til I'm sure that you're dead Copyright © 1963

To: michael97123 who wrote (191181)	7/7/2006 2:10:02 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Gotta kill them first to establish the prereqs for a peaceful world. Just like WW2 blues. Gotta kill the nazis all the time. Just such a very sad statement of reality, isn't it? One would think that people would be more concerned with their daily lot, having a family, and developing a progressive and fair-minded society. But instead, they latch on to some charismatic ideologue who brainwashes them into believing they're "special" and deserve to rule the world and tell other people what to do, upon pain of death. Now.. some might say that's what the US is engaged in, but there's a REAL AND SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE. We're fighting and struggling to empower people to TAKE CHARGE of their own lives, their government, and their futures. For all of our faults, as well as any abuses derived from our actions, the goal should always be to assist other people to RECOGNIZE the same values we hold so dear.. Individuality.. social order and political consensus, free speech and press... There will ALWAYS be people who seek political and military power. The key is to create democratic systems that hold them accountable for their policies and how they impact the nation as a whole. There's a good reason that democracies seldom, if ever, go to war with each other. No one can EVER say the same for totalitarian regimes. Hawk