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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (294170)	7/10/2006 9:55:59 PM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574854

re: A well functioning society is one that requires as few safety nets as possible. I'm not against public works or social programs that help advance society, but I am against those programs that foster an attitude of dependence and entitlement. The dire conditions of poverty are tragic, but they can also be an excellent motivating factor for people to work and study their butts off in order to succeed. I've seen many, many cases of this personally, and I believe that the more we foster this as a society, the less we'll need to depend on safety nets. Sounds great... except the society is moving in the other direction. You are completely out of touch. I suppose we could increase homelessness to "motivate" the working poor. Raise the rent and lower minimum wage so those single Mom's that are already working two jobs will get off their lazy asses and get a damn education in their spare time with their disposable income. What the hell is wrong with those people anyway? Must be the attitude "of dependence and entitlement" that makes them put in 60 hour workweeks. There are a whole lot of folks, Ten, that were not in the right place at the right time. That the "accident of birth" was a big negative, not a blessing. "There but by the grace of God go I".

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (294170)	7/11/2006 10:29:39 AM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1574854

One of the problems with our economy is that several people must work equally hard (and smart) for the wealth to be built, but receive vastly different rewards based solely on their position in the chain of events that leads to the wealth. I've been at many companies where the executives really think that the company succeeds primarily because they shake hands better than anyone else, when in fact the company makes products the customer wants. The same executives have a disproportionate influence on the compensation levels and the job-security. Any kid from a large family can tell you that whoever starts passing the potatoes has a better chance of getting more on their plate. A bit of socialism not only provides a safety net, but also an inherent acknowledgement that the sucess of our country is due to the many. When all share in the rewards, then all are willing to contribute. It's called Promoting the Common Welfare, and was enshrined in the Constitution as a main reason for having a country TP

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (294170)	7/15/2006 6:20:26 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574854

A well functioning society is one that requires as few safety nets as possible. I'm not against public works or social programs that help advance society, but I am against those programs that foster an attitude of dependence and entitlement. The dire conditions of poverty are tragic, but they can also be an excellent motivating factor for people to work and study their butts off in order to succeed. I've seen many, many cases of this personally, and I believe that the more we foster this as a society, the less we'll need to depend on safety nets. You sound like Ayn Rand. Hers and your idea of a well functioning society do not exist. Right now in Phoenix there are three killers on the loose. Two are randomly firing at people as they walk their dogs, go shopping, drive to work. The third is raping women and then killing them. How many times do you hear of those kind of incidents happening in Essen or Stockholm or Vienna? Americans are so enured to the violence in this country, its astounding.......esp. since we are supposed to be first world. In fact, of all the first world countries and even some third world countries, we have the most violence....simultaneously, we have the least amount of safety nets. You do the math.