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To: seventh_son who wrote (9626)7/19/2006 9:32:01 AM
From: Ichy Smith  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 37549
 
Would you belive the irony of the fact that Hezbollah was created as a result of resistance to Israel's invasion of Lebanon in 1982, and that although Israel's awesome military machine did not destroy it in 20 years of occupation, they demand that the weak Lebanese government destroy it immediately at their request? Are we going around in ever-widening circles of violence and stupidity here?

This nonsense has been going on since a massacre of Jews in 1929. But most of the "countries" have also been created since then. Much of this was part of the Turkish Empire until the end of the second world war, and then it was controlled by the French and the English. So in reality there were no long term governments....There are no historical Arab Governments they were created by the same governments England and France and in relatively the same time period. Maybe the Ottomans could be brought back to rule the entire mess.

And Israels anger has been fired more and more by events like the murder of it's athletes at the olympics, and the Achille lauro incident where Muslim Killers hijacked a ship, and dumped a cripple overboard into the sea, simply because he was Jewish. Or the young newsman who had his head cut off because he was Jewish. No wonder they are hysterical when their young men are kidnapped.

But I have to say I wonder at the idea that "Canadians" who no longer live in Canada, and haven't for some time, have the nerve to complain that Canada doesn't immediately have ships available to Lebanon to bring them to Canada the minute there is trouble. I am also hugely irritated that this is at the expense of the Canadian Taxpayer, and not at the expense of those needing to be brought out. This should not be paid for by Canadians, but should be funded at least in part by those we are rescuing.



To: seventh_son who wrote (9626)7/19/2006 9:37:14 AM
From: AK2004  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 37549
 
re: without a compelling military reason

I do believe that there was "a compelling military reason"

re: Would you believe that many Jews believe that peace will only arrive as a result of actions of goodwill

some do

BTW some jews believe that there was no holocaust

re: These Jews are at the top of my list for the Jews

what do you think of Gandhi? (it is relevant)

re: As a Christian

which I am not nor do I follow any religion

re: Canadians and their government should be constructive towards peace in the Middle East and the world

I think that everyone or almost everyone thinks that way. We disagree on the methods

re: and that although Israel's awesome military machine did not destroy it in 20 years of occupation

you do know that military can be very effective in the open battlefield but it is not very effective as a police force

re: they demand that the weak Lebanese government destroy it immediately at their request?

ok lets forget for a sec about Israel. Imagine the situation when the Canada would be a base for terrorists who were continuosly attacking and killing americans (US) and at some point specifically targeted american children. Lets also assume that the altimate goal of that group was killing of all americans and that group was very vocal about their goals. Lets also assume that that group was in Canadian government. Lets also assume that that group pointed hundreds of nuclear warheads at US which would be roughly equivalent to 10000 small rockets pointing at small Israel. Lets also assume that once in a while they launch the rockets but so far did not hit any city yet. Lets assume that Canadian government would tell US that their police is not in a position to take any actions what-so-ever to stop the attacks against US citizens. Lets assume that France is vocally against any hostile actions against Canada
And finally lets assume that you are a president of US thinking if you should listen to France
So what would you do?

-AK

BTW you are probably right about spending too much time on that topic on this thread



To: seventh_son who wrote (9626)7/20/2006 12:51:24 AM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum  Respond to of 37549
 
SS,
Now watch what you say
Or they'll be calling you a radical
A liberal, oh
fanatical, criminal
Oh won't you sign up your name
We'd like to feel you're
Acceptable,
respectable, oh presentable, a vegetable


Good post :o)

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