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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (192120)7/19/2006 12:49:09 PM
From: Wharf Rat  Respond to of 281500
 
No, really. Understanding security is tied to energy independence and that's tied to peak oil and alt en which is tied to climate change which is tied to security is a bigger step than a lot of people have taken.
And it is tied to our economic future. Almost every nation in the world is headed towards energy sustainability. There's been a lot posted on Europe, but China...

. But wind-generated power, which is growing worldwide at 30% per year, and which costs 80% less per megawatt than it did 20 years ago, is an important part of China's energy strategy. The world leader in wind energy is the nation of Denmark, whose wind manufacturers have forged strong ties with Chinese partners. Over 50% of the large capacity windmills currently installed in China are manufactured in Denmark. ...
By the end of 2004, China produced 200,000 off-grid wind turbine generators, ranking it number one in the world. I have off grid neighbors)...
. By the end of 2005, China had built 59 wind farms with 1,854 wind turbine generators and a 1,266 megawatt in-grid wind power installed capacity, ranking it number ten globally.
Message 22635996

China set to invest $200bn in renewable energy sector

HONG KONG • China is set to spend $200bn on renewable energy over the next 15 years, and industry players are racing to grab a slice of the action.
Message 22636003

and what's the US plan? (Bear in mind solar powers wind, rain, photosynthesis, everything, but I suspect they only mean PV.)
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Government marks $170 million for solar energy

By Reuters

Published: June 28, 2006, 4:26 PM PDT

The Bush administration said on Wednesday it would offer $170 million to public and private partnerships to make solar energy more competitive with conventional electricity sources by 2015.
news.com.com



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (192120)7/19/2006 1:22:04 PM
From: Wharf Rat  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
PS. It's so big it has to take federal leadership. But it doesn't have to hurt. And people are thinking about how to do it.

10 silver BBs...replaces 100% of electricity, 50 % of transportation fuels in 15 years. If I have added their numbers correctly, cuts all GHG and 13 mil BPD of oil...

popsci.com

And, if I recall correctly, those were lowball numbers, since they only mentioned H, with unknown savings(which is good), and didn't discuss things like switching long distance freight to electric rail and going to a 10/40 or 3/36 hour work week as contributions towards conservation. . Nor the energy savings of recycling. Can't remember if it talked specifically about projects like this, but this is also applicable to any bridge on any big river in America, 24/7....

"There are nearly 400 billion gallons of water rushing through the Gate every day," says O'Donnell, pointing at the murky, fast-flowing ebb tide racing under the bridge. "That's four billion gallons of energy each and every tide, flowing at up to six knots, four times a day. Forty per cent of the fresh water in California drains through that opening every year. The potential for tidal energy generation here is incredible."
sfenvironment.com

And, in the same issue of PM,



Diesel Wins Respect
Think diesel is stinky and slow? This history-making 220mph racecar aims to prove you wrong. Click inside for video...

. ..It also allows the racecar to reach a staggering 650 horsepower at only 5,000 rpm, while its competitors must hit an ear-splitting 12,000 rpm to achieve that power. In production cars, the key bonus is mileage—Audi’s diesel Q7 SUV will get 23 miles per gallon.
popsci.com