To: Stephen O who wrote (9644 ) 7/19/2006 3:29:38 PM From: AK2004 Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 37549 re: Ghandi was leader of 1 billion Hindus, by far the largest group in the region. Israel has how many Jews in a region overwhelmingly populated by Muslims. Find another comparison. :-)) I was refrring to what ghandi said about Jews in nazi germany:Germany is showing to the world how efficiently violence can be worked when it is not hampered by any hypocrisy or weakness masquerading as humanitarianism. It is also showing how hideous, terrible and terrifying it looks in its nakedness. Can the Jews resist this organized and shameless persecution? Is there a way to preserve their self-respect, and not to feel helpless, neglected and forlorn? I submit there is...If I were a Jew and were born in Germany and earned my livelihood there, I would claim Germany as my home even as the tallest gentile German may, and challenge him to shoot me or cast me in the dungeon; I would refuse to be expelled or to submit to discriminating treatment. And for doing this, I should not wait for the fellow Jews to join me in civil resistance but would have confidence that in the end the rest are bound to follow my example. If one Jew or all the Jews were to accept the prescription here offered, he or they cannot be worse off than now. And suffering voluntarily undergone will bring them an inner strength and joy which no number of resolutions of sympathy passed in the world outside Germany can. Indeed, even if Britain, France and America were to declare hostilities against Germany, they can bring no inner joy, no inner strength. The calculated violence of Hitler may even result in a general massacre of the Jews by way of his first answer to the declaration of such hostilities. But if the Jewish mind could be prepared for voluntary suffering, even the massacre I have imagined could be turned into a day of thanksgiving and joy that Jehovah had wrought deliverance of the race even at the hands of the tyrant. For to the godfearing death has no terror. It is a joyful sleep to be followed by a waking that would be all the more refreshing for the long sleep. so what can we learn from this? well, for one thing resisting British is far easier than resisting nazis. Civil resistance could not work on nazis. France did not attack germany when it was needed and that resulted in a massacre of jews and not other way around. If ghandi wanted to accept voluntary his suffering and death then it was his business but he should not have preached it to the hole people. (He did not preach death to 1 billion of his followers in india.) So why is it relevant now? Don't expect that you can take terrorist to court like you do in Canada when someone sells you a defective vacuum cleaner. Admit it to yourself that you do not have a clue about what Israel needs to do. And while you at it admit it to yourself that you probably do not have a clue about ghandi's peace which you are trying to impose on israel. and finally re: Find another comparison. can anyone find a better comparison than that?