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To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (192219)7/20/2006 2:34:20 AM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Laz.. Less than 8 months ago, last November to be exact, Hizbullah and Israel were going at it.

A heavy exchange of fire between Hizbollah and the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) across the Blue Line took place on 21 November 2005, surpassing any activity level since Israel’s withdrawal from Lebanon in May 2000. The exchange began with heavy Hizbollah mortar and rocket fire from a number of locations against several IDF positions close to the Blue Line in the eastern sector of the UNIFIL area of operation. Simultaneously, a large group of Hizbollah fighters infiltrated Ghajar village and launched an assault on the Mayor’s office and the IDF position inside the village, south of the Blue Line, which was vacant at the time. The ensuing Israeli retaliation was heavy and included aerial bombing. The exchange of fire subsequently spread all along the Blue Line and lasted for over nine hours. Around 800 artillery, tank and mortar rounds and rockets were exchanged. The Israeli Air Force (IAF) dropped at least 30 aerial bombs.

In a written report to the Security Council 18 April 2006, Secretary-General Kofi Annan called on Syria and Iran to stop interfering in Lebanon. The report, which was written by the secretary-general's special envoy Terje Roed-Larsen, said that Hizballah, the Lebanese militant group, "maintains close ties, with frequent contacts and regular communication" with Syria and Iran.

Resolution 1680 (2006), adopted by the Security Council on 17 May 2006, welcomed the decision of the Lebanese national dialogue to disarm Palestinian militias outside refugee camps within six months, supports its implementation and calls for further efforts to disband and disarm all Lebanese and non-Lebanese militias and to restore fully the Lebanese Government's control over all Lebanese territory.


globalsecurity.org



To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (192219)7/20/2006 3:09:15 AM
From: KLP  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Gosh, Laz....I think there has been PLENTY of advance notice that there was a breaking point coming....And the things I listed below are only for the last couple of years. There are LOTS more....Anyone with a brain knows there is a limit and breaking point. Hazbollah has wayyyyyyyyyyy overreached, and the Lebanon Government knew they were there, and did nothing much to get them out of their country.

ONCE A TERRORIST . . .

NEW YORK POST
Editorial
November 28, 2005

Last week's attempt by the Lebanese Hezbollah to raid two military out posts and kidnap Israeli soldiers along the border — the worst clash there in five years — is a sobering lesson for those who insist that the best way to disarm terrorists is to welcome them into the political process.

Hezbollah, after all, is a part of the Lebanese government, having won seats in the last parliamentary election. And many now argue that Hamas should be allowed to participate in Palestinian elections — rather than being forcibly disarmed. Some even think terrorists in Iraq should be enticed to join the system there.

Making terrorists part of mainstream politics — thus giving them a stake in the local government — is the way to induce them to give up their arms. Or so goes the argument, anyway.

The notion is gaining favor in Washington, where the Bush administration disagrees with Israel's position that Hamas should be barred from fielding candidates in the next Palestinian elections.

Hmm. If turning a terrorist group into a political party is the path to disarmament, what accounts for Hezbollah's continued, and increasing, terror attacks?

The answer, of course, is that terrorists can't be tamed. Welcoming them inside the tent will only embolden those committed to violence — and threaten the long-term viability of governments.

Meanwhile, Lebanon is under U.N. orders to disarm Hezbollah; to date, it has refused. And the Palestinian Authority has ignored its own signed commitment to forcibly disarm Hamas and other terrorist groups. No move has been made to force either country to comply.

Indeed, were it not for U.S. Ambassador John Bolton, the Security Council wouldn't even have held Hezbollah responsible for the latest outrage.

Bolton, refreshing face that he is, deserves credit.

Yet it remains disturbing that, according to Israel, U.N. troops in Lebanon were told several weeks ago of the planned Hezbollah attack — but took no action to stop it.

And equally disturbing that the world body's resolution remains largely toothless when it comes to actually ridding the world of terrorism.

nypost.com

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When one KNOWS for sure that a group does these things, and then admits it themselves, why would ANYone in their right mind stay in a country that permits these same terrorists to become part of the country's government????

Zawahiri was a pioneer in the use of suicide bombers, which became a signature of Jihad assassinations. The strategy broke powerful religious taboos against suicide and the murder of innocents. (For these reasons, the Islamic Group preferred to work with guns and knives.) Although HEZBOLLAH employed truck bombers to attack the American Embassy and the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut in 1983, such martyrdom operations had not yet worked their way into the modern vocabulary of terror. In Palestine, suicide bombings were virtually unknown until the mid-nineties, when the Oslo accords began to unravel. Another of Zawahiri's innovations was to tape the bomber's vows of martyrdom on the eve of the mission.

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Article dated 12/14/04....MSA is a ProTerror Organization....

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And this Dec 3, 2004....

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200 pledge willingness to carry out suicide attacks against Americans, Israelis

04:43 AM EST Dec 03

TEHRAN, Iran, (AP) - Some 200 masked young men and women gathered at a Tehran cemetery Thursday to pledge their willingness to carry out suicide bomb attacks against Americans in Iraq and Israelis.

The ceremony was organized by the Headquarters for Commemorating Martyrs of the Global Islamic Movement, a shadowy group that has since June been seeking volunteers for attacks in Iraq and Israel.

A spokesman, Ali Mohammadi, described Thursday's group as the "first suicide commando unit," though another official has claimed members already have carried out attacks in Israel.

"Sooner or later we will bury all blasphemous occupiers of Islamic lands," Mohammadi said.

Sunday, Iran's deputy interior minister for security affairs told reporters the movement had no official sanction and said such groups could operate only "as long as their ideas are limited to theory." The group, though, has the backing of some prominent hard-line Iranian politicians.

The deputy minister, Ali Asghar Ahmadi, did not say if the government had tried to crack down on the military style training the group claims to offer or whether officials believed any of its volunteers had crossed into Iraq or into Israel.

Iran has had no diplomatic ties with the United States since the 1979 Islamic revolution ousted the U.S.-backed shah. But it says it has no interest in fomenting instability in Iraq and that it tries to block any infiltration into Iraq by insurgents - while pleading that its porous borders are hard to police.

Iran portrays Israel as its main nemesis and backs anti-Israeli groups like Lebanon's Hezbollah.

Wives, husbands and children accompanied volunteers to the cemetery, which was decorated with posters denouncing America and Israel.

"I joined the unit to fulfill my religious task for Palestine," said a volunteer who gave only his age - 23.

Thursday's ceremony included the unveiling of two-meter (6-foot) stone column commemorating a 1983 attack on U.S. Marine barracks in Lebanon as "the biggest suicide bombing operation against global blasphemy."

In the early hours of Oct. 23, 1983, a truck carrying more than 2,000 pounds of explosives sped past a sentry post and exploded in the center of the barracks, killing 241 Marines. Then U.S. President Ronald Reagan ordered U.S. troops to withdraw from Lebanon a few months after the bombing.

In 2003 a federal judge blamed Iran for the 1983 terrorist bombing in Beirut and said Tehran would have to pay damages to survivors and relatives.

© The Canadian Press, 2004

cbc.ca



To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (192219)7/20/2006 4:10:39 AM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
You're referring mostly to matters over a year old. After that Syrian assassination, the Lebanese got fed up, had a peaceful (pretty much) revolt and forced the Syrians out.

...but now the Syrians are striking back, via Hizbullah.

"When you strike the king, you must kill him."

It's a very old saying.