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To: Noel de Leon who wrote (192446)7/21/2006 10:31:25 AM
From: michael97123  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
"I don't believe that Hizbullah is a Syrian/Iranian puppet. It seems to me that Hizbullah's recent attacks are not in Syria's or Iran's interests since they push the risk of attack by Israel(Syria) and the US(Iran) closer. "

Perhaps or more likely they didnt see the israeli reaction coming the way it did in lebanon. From an israeli perspective, even thought is far harder than they originally thought, its better that they found out now, the extent of the weaponry already in hizbollah hands and supplied by iran thru syria as far as i can see.

"Perhaps the most important problem is that the US has no influence with any of the Moslem states or organizations in the ME thanks to the Iraq fiasco, the fact that the Taleban seem to be regaining power in local areas of Afghanistan, and that the US supports Israel to the detriment of the Palestinians"

Not so quick. It seems that a sunni nation counterweight to the shiaa crescent is forming in support of the US and Israel policies. I think we will get a three state solution in iraq where the sunnis in charge have relations with the other sunni states. I think syria will be enticed to switch sides with a golan deal or bashir will somehow fall to sunni leadership that will partner with more natural allies than iran. Syria is really in harms way now because of what hizbolla did and iran might have ordered. In any case i think we get return to balance of power given new realities, some yet to come re: hizbollah, iraq.

PS I wish we were reading this as history of something that happened years ago than watching these tragic events unfold in real time.



To: Noel de Leon who wrote (192446)7/21/2006 2:33:33 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Israel's right to exist needs to be recognized by Hamas and Hizbollah

Hamas and Hizbullah are ideologically constrained from recognizing Israelis right to exist. In their Islamist ideology Israel has no right to exist. Only Muslims have the right to rule a state.

The most they can do is offer a temporary truce. They may put a time limit on it, but everybody knows they will break it if they feel strong enough.

If you don't believe that Hizbullah works on Iranian orders, you are the only one. Iran pays Hizbullah $100 million a year, there are Revolutionary Guards fighting with Hizbullah, Nasrallah is totally subservient to Iran. Notice how convenient the timing of this last attack was for Iran?

Perhaps the most important problem is that the US has no influence with any of the Moslem states or organizations in the ME thanks to the Iraq fiasco

That would be as opposed to the wonderful, brilliant influence Clinton had with Arafat back in 2000. Did a beautiful job getting that peace treaty & all. And nobody can say that Clinton didn't put in his utmost effort trying.

Face it, the US has never had influence enough to get a peace treaty, or even to get our supposed allies Egypt Jordan and SA, to try to help getting a peace treaty. The Arab states have never wanted a peace treaty, the conflict is FAR too useful to them.