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To: Elroy who wrote (194278)	8/1/2006 2:07:57 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

We're not talking about Arab states, we're talking the region where Israel-Palestine is located, especially the area near Jerusalem. Like Lebanon today, it has throughout recorded history been "multi-ethnic". Stay on topic. No.. YOU stay on topic. You make the claim that the region was multi-ethnic and that assertion might be correct TO A POINT while the Turks ruled the area for 500 years. After all, any Empire is multi-ethnic given the extent of its expansion and conquests. HOWEVER, since the dismantlement of the Ottoman Empire after WWI, the prevailing trend has been for Arabs to create ARAB MUSLIM states, and to discriminate against other ethnicities. So, given that Zionists commenced their migration in the 20 years PRIOR to WWI, WITH THE PERMISSION of the Turks, joining the Sephardic Jews who had been long time residents in the area, why is it any surprise that they would want to create a Jewish state? After all, every new country surrounding them is implementing policies to discriminate against them and calling themselves ARAB states. They were instituting policies that made it a capital crime to sell land to Jews. And they were supporting religious and tribal leaders to attack Jews and pursuing the same thinking ideology as the Nazis. If you doubt this growing racism on the part of Arabs, review the history of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem during WWII, who was forced into exile by the British and became a major Muslim collaborator to the Nazis, recruiting muslim SS soldiers in Bosnia (where they killed 90% of all Jews in that area). Yeah.. facing something like that, you bet I'd want my own country and would not be willing to subjugate my population to the "promises" of some Arab ruler to protect me. And I'm certainly not going to just leave when I've invested every last bit of my money into returning to my historical homeland and I've go nowhere else to go (because no other country wants to offer me refugee status). Thus, the basis of the conflict is not the existence of a Jewish state. It's the intolerance and xenophobic attitude of Arabs (and their leaders that fuel the flames of these emotions for their own political purposes) that is the basis of the conflict. They claim that a Jewish state is racist, while trying to deflect from their very own racist Arab states. They claim its a virus that needs to be destroyed. They claim its an western cancer that has to be removed. Any excuse they can think of in order to justify their own racist intolerance. And they inflame the conflict between Palestinians and Jews, smashing their pride and honor against the ramparts of Israeli determination not to be exterminated again. All, while the majority of Israeli Jews just want to be left alone, with no desire to be involved in a war with their neighbors (or anyone else). Hawk