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To: samtrader who wrote (196877)	8/11/2006 4:29:25 PM
From: SARMAN	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

We (the democratic world) have much to lose if Israel loses. What do you have to lose?

To: samtrader who wrote (196877)	8/11/2006 4:37:19 PM
From: sylvester80	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

We (the democratic world) have much to lose if Israel loses. You clearly delusional. Cause we have a lot more to lose if the Israeli fascist aggression wins. Like nuclear holocaust. The results of which will be devastating to the greedy oil run western world.

To: samtrader who wrote (196877)	8/11/2006 10:50:48 PM
From: el_gaviero	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

"We (the democratic world) have much to lose if Israel loses." I could not disagree more. The interest of people of the US is that we put as much space as possible between ourselves and the most immoral country on the planet (as measured by such basic standards as taking land by violence from other people). That we have let ourselves become vassals of that dark country is beyond measure foolish. It is bad for us (and just for the record, catastrophic for them, as their arrogance and ability to spin stories that justify crime will lead to their own richly deserved destruction). We have no essential conflict with Arabia and with Muslim countries in general. If we were to pursue our interest rather than Israel’s, our problems with Islam would fade. All we want from the Middle East is oil, which we can get via the market, especially if we distance ourselves from TSLC ---- [[(( that shitty little country)))]]. That so many people in the USA identity with Israel is a measure of the degree of demoralization of European-America. Our leadership does not seek the interest of Euro-America, the real America, the America that works, or used to. As a result, there are vast numbers of Euro-Americans who are confused. Certain people, dual-loyalty people (to be charitable, actually the people to whom I refer do not have dual loyalties, but rather, are mono-loyal, and the receipt of that emotion is of course TSLC) – anyway, these nominally dual-loyalty citizens have taken advantage of Euro-American confusion to skew and corrupt and spy upon and distort and twist and bend and bride this country away from its interest. A huge effort is required to bend us so far from our purpose, and in that respect, one has to extend a certain grudging admiration to the Tribe for quite an amazing job well done. Of course, their success will destroy this country – in fact, already has --- as parasites always kill the host sooner or later. I hope I live long enough to see the inevitable collapse when it arrives. It will be fun to see how THEY manage with the Lebanese and the Pals and the Syrians and Iranians without OUR weapons and our money and our politicians who lick the dried feces off their rear ends upon command. To say that we lose if Israel loses is like saying that that a hound dog loses if a tick in its ear lets go and falls to the ground. Some loss.