There were more nations participating in the overthrow of Saddam than there were involved in ousting him from Kuwait.
Whoopee doo-doo?
In March 2003, the US announced the list of 30 countries in the "Coalition of the Willing."
Afghanistan, Albania, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Colombia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Georgia, Hungary, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, the Netherlands, Nicaragua, the Philippines, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Spain, Turkey, United Kingdom and Uzbekistan.
Right off the bat, Turkey said, ~Our involvement hasn't been approved by our parliament, we're not on the list. But that's not hugely important, it was a minor PR faux pas. If you'll excuse the French.
In the Gulf War there were 34 allied countries:
Afghanistan, Argentina, Australia, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Canada, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Egypt, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Honduras, Italy, Kuwait, Morocco, The Netherlands, Niger, Norway, Oman, Pakistan, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Senegal, South Korea, Spain, Syria, Turkey, The United Arab Emirates, the United Kingdom and the United States.
Note the appearance of Bahrain, Kuwait [no-brainer], Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, the UAE.
Of course you would note that we didn't have Macedonia or El Salvador for the Gulf War and Macedonia. Far more significant ally than any of those stinky Arab countries.
Actually, I know you wouldn't do that. That would be too "sophisicated" for you. You want to keep it simple: How many countries can be counted on your fingers and toes? Then let's see who has more. [Gives us some insight as to why you were in the military.]
Again.. you avoid answering WHERE these terrorist acts are predominantly being committed.
If you were to re-read my response, I did answer the question. I'll rephrase just for you. Before 9/11 and after 9/11 the majority of attacks were not in Western countries. That hasn't changed. The only thing that has changed are there are far more attacks then there were before 9/11. More people are being killed by terrrorists which includes more westerners being killed by terrorism. Good going with Bush's policy, more people are dying, Muslims, Christians, Jews, Westerners, non-western people. He's got lots of people dying with his fine execution of the war on terror.
And as I mentioned to Sly (or was it Geode?), there are many countries that have historically had higher levels of violence than Iraq. Columbia had its period of "La Violencia", and it still has one of the highest murder rates in the world. But their government has been able to sustain some semblance of order.
I believe I may remember that post or perhaps it was a post along the same line. I had a good laugh over it.
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You were clever enough to notice the month vs. year comparison and adjusted it to month vs. month. Bravo. But you didn't notice that the deaths were compared in a population of 6 million to a population of 26 million. You made no adjustment for that "minor" detail. The proper comparison would require you to use multiplication AND division.
But we win when we refuse to live in fear...
Tell it to Bush, he seems to think he gets the most mileage by keeping the fear factor going.
And for us to win against terrorist acts like 9/11, 7/7, Madrid,...
I wouldn't expect there to be too many Madrid type terrorist activities. If you recall, those particular terrorists were taking revenge for the when the Spanish booted 250,000 Muslims out of Spain during the early 1600s. I don't know how many terrorists are still holding a grudge over that one, but there can't be that many left.
There you go! How many terrorist attacks have there been since the Madrid incident that have been directly related to the Spanish Inquisition? And when did the last one occur before the Madrid incident. I'm going out on a limb here, but I'll claim that the Spanish have defeated the terrorists that are motivated by the Spanish Inquisition.
The least you can do is give Bush Sr. his due credit, as I have, for actually accomplishing the mission. Which was to remove Iraqi forces and restore the relative stability in the region. Sure he didn't do it with the fanfare of flying on an aircraft carrier with a big banner declaring mission accomplished. But he did the job he set out to do and he had the majority of Arab countries with him.
Dubya, on the other hand, has not found or accounted for the WMD, he has not restored peace and security in the region; i.e., he did not enforce 1441. "BUSH JR. IS AN ABYSMAL FAILURE." But I'll bet you liked the banner a lot.
Number of Bush Sr. "Mission Accomplished" banners: 0
Number of Bush Jr. "Mission Accomplished" banners: 1
With your application of metrics, Bush Jr. has done a better job.
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