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To: michael97123 who wrote (197301)	8/14/2006 4:29:21 PM
From: Katelew	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

I don't recall a definitive milatary success against guerilla warfare. Not by French or USA in Vietnam, not French in Algeria, not USSR in Afghanistan. Guerrilla style warfare succeeded in Cuba, China, and too a large part in the Russian Revolution. Basically guerilla warfare defeated the British in our war for independence.

To: michael97123 who wrote (197301)	8/14/2006 5:53:56 PM
From: jttmab	Respond to of 281500

It is ironic that only Russia does what seems to be necessary to defeat these folks.. Ever hear of the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan? Maybe you're thinking of Chechnya.... Chechnya: The week in brief: 7 - 13 Aug 2006 August 7 - Nowadays there are 1,500 full orphans in orphanages in the Chechen Republic, stated Chechen ethnographer Said-Magomed Khasiyev on local TV, according to the Russian-Chechen Information agency. August 8 - Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the Defence Ministry and Interior Ministry to present by December 15 their plans for the withdrawal of a part of the units under their command from Chechnya, which could take place gradually in 2007-8. The planned withdrawal would only concern "temporarily deployed units", not the "permanently stationed" ones. August 9 - The prosecutor of the Daghestani town of Buynaksk died in a car bomb attack. Later that day, the Dagestani Interior Minister Adilgerey Magomedtagirov, who was travelling to the scene, was subjected to a car bomb attack as well, but he survived thanks to his car's armour. August 10 - An overnight assassination attack against the Prosecutor of Ingushetiya's Nazranovsky district, Gerikhan Khazbiyev, carried out at his residence in Nazran, resulted in the killing of his brother and injuring of about a dozen of other people. August 11 - The press service of the Moscow-backed Chechen President Alu Alkhanov announced that the Security Council of the Chechen Republic had been transformed into the Public and Economic Security Council and its head Khayrudi Visingeriyev replaced by Chechen presidential aide Gherman Vok. August 12 - At least two soldiers were killed and seven others injured when Chechen policemen and Russian troops fired on one another in an overnight friendly fire incident in Chechnya's Kurchaloysky district. reliefweb.int That was a good week in Chechnya. Think it might be related to how the Russians handle terrorists.... MOSCOW, August 14 (Itar-Tass) - The decision on amnesty and surrender of gunmen has been welcomed in Chechnya. The republic is facing broad prospects after the liquidation of terrorist Basayev, Chechen Prime Minister Ramzan Kadyrov said in an interview published by Nezavisimaya Gazeta daily on Monday. “All amnesties that have been announced during this campaign yielded a noticeable result. Even one saved human life for us is a major success. At present, five-six gunmen surrender daily, they surrender arms and we have received more than 100 people,” said the Chechen prime minister. “The people judge by the results of the first amnesty. They see that President Vladimir Putin has kept his promise. Then all who laid down arms were employed,” Kadyrov noted. According to the Chechen government head, it is planned to create 170,000-180,000 more jobs in the short run. According to Kadyrov, at present there are “50-60 active gunmen in the republic and non-resident outcasts of various nations – some 150-200 people. They can do nothing, because our people have chosen their path,” said the Chechen prime minister. “As soon as gunmen appear anywhere people at once report to police. Gunmen have nothing to catch in the republic now, as we have the political advantage ,” Kadyrov stressed. The Chechen cabinet head called on the neighbours in the region “to mind that amnesty is not just Chechnya, it applies to the whole Southern federal district of Russia.” “They should not say in the neighbouring regions that ‘we have no gunmen’,” the Chechen prime minister said. “They have. Gunmen had been trained in Chechnya in the past, but at present they arrive there, stage terrorist attacks and disappear. Our Interior Ministry is working well, we have great experience in fighting terrorism,” Kadyrov pointed out. itar-tass.com Give the terrorists amnesty and jobs. Ironic isn't it? We need a new text book on how to fight these folks that takes the new realities into account. Are there ways to do it that take the casualties and collateral damage into account? There was an old book written on it, now being distributed in US military training facilities. Some Frenchie wrote it and I don't recall the title. jttmab