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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (197928)	8/18/2006 11:35:14 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

"The odds are that Olmert is going to be replaced with Netanyahu. I can feel the "winds of change" coming in Israel as they feel even more pressured by their enemies drawing closer. And Netanyahu is not someone to mess with, IMO." I am thinking the same thing. I am also thinking that the israeli response will be directed at all of lebanon, treating that country as a sponsor of terrorism. Thats sounds like more of the same but in fact israel only went after hizbolla targets in south lebanon and south beirut along with weapons transported from syria only when on the lebanon side of the border. Next time, the lebanese govt wont be having any arab state visitors to beirut in the midst of a war and Syria will be the first supplier nation to be attacked. I think that is what carl is looking for too and another war ending in statemate of sortw with both side seeing the abyss with the only way out being a lasting peace.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (197928)	8/18/2006 5:54:52 PM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Hi Hawkmoon; As I've mentioned many times before on this thread, the real problem Israel has is demographics. The number of people killed in these wars is very small (unless you happen to be one), but making Israel an unpleasant place to live, and the IDF an unpleasant organization to be drafted into has an effect on Israel. Let me quote you from Israeli soldiers themselves: ... The sniper on team 3 is waiting to receive a warning that he will be fired. He has been away from his new job for a month. The medic, the team leader and the guy handling the grenade launcher are unsure about what to do with the semester exams that they have missed. Those who are single are planning to flee the country. The family men are due home to wives who have not slept for a month, to children dying for their embrace, but also to mortgages and the rest of the payments that need to be made. ... On a hill between Mount Meron and Safed, at 2:00 PM on August 16, 2006, the brigade commander talked with his troops from the reconnaissance unit. In response to the claims there had been no orders, no relevant training, about the hunger, the lack of equipment, and the journalists that risked our lives with their camera flashes prior to our entry into Lebanon, Colonel Cohen lectured us for lacking motivation. The soldiers quickly surrounded him, the tempers flared, the tones rose very high. Pretty soon there was booing. A moment before there was real violence, the brigade commander carried out a brilliant withdrawal. If he had a smoke grenade available, surely he would have used it. ... haaretz.com -- Carl