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To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (60402)	8/22/2006 2:43:28 AM
From: patron_anejo_por_favor	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 306849

I'm predicting energy independence....in 15-20 years. In the meantime, it'll be rough sledding, high oil prices, intermittent and deep recessions and forced conservation.

To: Lizzie Tudor who wrote (60402)	8/22/2006 6:55:33 AM
From: ChanceIs	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

>>>I think maybe we've had so many failures with ethanol (a big scam apparently) and detroits failed ventures people are just depressed.<<< You raise some valid points. I am on record here advocating "Vespa Nation." <G> We love our SUVs. That is a big capital investment which people won't relinquish easily. I think some 50%-60% of the 20 or so MM BPD of crude consumption in the US goes to transportation. I would venture to guess we could knock about 3MM BPD out by going to the heavy scooter/light car approach and putting the SUVs up on blocks. What does a Vespa cost anyway?