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To: GARY P GROBBEL who wrote (90)	8/22/2006 1:57:15 AM
From: Coz	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1262

The administration has got to get the threat right and convey it clearly so our nation will wake up, drown out those who want to cut and run, remember 9-11 every day, and act accordingly. Hi Gary, I find it frustrating the way complex situations are oversimplified into a slogan which may or may not relate to the truth. As long as people in our country just want to stand on opposite side of the fence and shout catch phrases at each other, IMO, America will find itself in a precipitous decline. No progressive of any consequence has ever proposed a "cut and run" policy. That is just a phrase that is kicked out there as a divisive political tool. Even Dennis Kucinich who wants us to immediately withdraw from Iraq (the "cut" allegation) has a four point plan to fight terrorism and stop the bloodshed. But most progressives say that leaving Iraq is not an option. John Kerry campaigned saying he wanted to do what George Bush was doing only do it better. There just is no "cut and run" out there. Progressives see what is at stake as clearly as neo-conservatives. They just have different ideas about how to resolve these important issues. No ones eyes are closed. No one is burying their head in the sand or any other place:) It is not a matter of cowardice or courage. Everyone just has different visions on how to make the world a better place. And it could become a better place with we would talk and listen to each other. Sadly, politics has become about winning. Regardless of political philosophy, it should be about public service. I just believe that we somehow have to transcend all of this shouting down the other side with meaningless two and three word slogans, or we are cutting our own throats and making the future into a living hell for those that inherit the world we are making. --Coz

To: GARY P GROBBEL who wrote (90)	8/22/2006 2:48:43 AM
From: RMF	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1262

"President Bush" "with the bullhorn"....We've had that MORON for the last 5 years and things have gotten progressively worse. 9/11 WASN'T the first attack by Muslim fanatics. That one came in 1993. Clinton treated it as an intelligence/police matter and we didn't have another attack until 2001. We wouldn't have had the attack in 2001 if the Bush administration had been cognizant of the terrorist threat. They sent Bush a memo saying "BIN LADEN MAY WANT TO ATTACK USING COMMERCIAL AIRLINES" and that moron didn't pass it on to the FAA or anybody else. An FBI guy said that he thought it would be good to look into the fact that a Muslim guy wanted to learn about flying commercial jets but not landing them, but nobody wanted to follow up on it because they didn't want to "rock the boat" on their own careers. We had a "small" but organized group of Islamic terrorists before Bush came in. NOW..we have the entire Islamic world up in arms about the "Crusader" Westerners. Before Bush came in we had a "reformist" Iranian President and lots of talk about opening communications between our two countries. NOW we have an Iranian guy that's obsessed with the 12th Imam and ridicules Bush at every opportunity. Before Bush came in we had a N. Korea that was starting to open up to S. Korea and the rest of the world and seemed frozen at 2 nukes and was cheating (very slowly) on the side to get another one. Since Bush came in the N. Koreans pulled the rods from their nuclear plant and could have 10-12 nukes. That's just the screwups on foreign policy. The deficits, trade imbalances, income disparities are all OTHER topics which would bury even the most competent president, but SOMEHOW this "fool of fools" seems to continue to have supporters.