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To: michael97123 who wrote (198710)	8/23/2006 8:30:01 AM
From: Sam	Respond to of 281500

Yes its about power and whether we have the stones to prevent this scenario from developing. The "stones"? Fact is, we couldn't prevent Pakistan from developing the bomb. Or, apparently, NK. Fact is, our "stones" have nothing to do with it. If a country has the money, a decent enough education system to produce enough competent physicists and chemists and engineers, and the will to build it, then they will huild it.

To: michael97123 who wrote (198710)	8/24/2006 2:57:46 AM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Hi michael97123; Re: "Iran with nukes will certainly lead to a sunni nuke in the middle east. The instability created by this is unacceptable to the west, not to mention israel." Like the guy who doesn't recognize the log in his own eye, you fail to notice that Israel's possession of nukes also contributed to proliferation. In fact, Iran often mentions this. Re: "What i was suggesting was a way to prevent this largely by paying off Iran and NK and not thru war." This might work with NK, but the basic problem is that you can't really tell if it worked or not. As long as their border is problematic, and South Korea is so much better armed than they are, I would guess that they will want nukes. Iran's two worst enemies, the United States and Israel, both are nuclear armed. I doubt that there is anything on the planet that will prevent Iran from gearing up. This seems to me to be like two parents telling their kids not to have sex before they're married. Meanwhile, they're both sleeping around all over the place and everyone knows it. The situation is not about right or wrong, it's about power. And we do not have the power to force Iran to knuckle under to permanent 2nd class status. They may walk two steps behind us, but it won't be because we're the husband and they're the little lady. It's because they're imitating everything we do. When the leading nation of the world takes what it wants with naked power what do you expect the rest of the world to learn? Too bad what we took turned to crap in our fingers. -- Carl