To: JohnG who wrote (144455 ) 8/23/2006 7:03:43 PM From: edwin k. Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 152472 Bigtime OT. But make no mistake, the population of this country is not in any way ready for many changes that will take away their toys, etc. They are not ready for mass transit, even it were here. Americans want convenience, and they want it now. Ford and GM and Chrysler are still advertising muscle cars even as we all know that muscle cars should never be allowed to exist. They still sell! Of course, the domestic sales are down, but I doubt they attribute it to the sale of muscle cars. Point is, we are still a nation of size and horsepower. We are not going to easily give up our view of the american dream, which includes, boating, flying, jetsetting, and driving big cars and trucks, etc etc. People will not use mass transit enough to pay for it....not unless the price of gas goes much higher than 3 bucks. Try six bucks, just to get it started, but who knows? We like our privacy too much to ride mass transit. As far as Coal and Canadian Oil Sands.... We now are lookin' down the barrel of Global Warming. No, I do not believe we will ever turn that around...we are "in for it" on that issue. China has huge coal reserves, as do other countries. There are still many zillions of tons of coal, and zillions of gallons of oil, and zillions of Cubic Feet of nat. gas. The world is going to use 'em up. Many countries are competing for these fuels now, and the price will rise, but it has to rise alot before big meaningful changes will take place. Don't get me wrong, I think alot of things should change...I am just pretty pessimistic about the american attitude, or the attitude of those in all those developing countries who now want TVs, cars, refrig., central heating, etc. The companies they work for must compete on the global mkt. for sales of everything. There is no time to think about pollution, global warming, the wasting of fossil fuels, building / paying for nuclear etc. Capitalism is king, and that ain't going away in the next 100 years. How many countries are now developing and joining us in the industrial revolution? More than a hundred, with most of the world's population? Everybody is industrializing in a big way...as fast as they can. Switching to Nuclear is too expensive in the short run. We need it now but no country can be trusted to manage it safely....safe enough for all of us, and not just the poor schmucks who live downwind. The production of the fuel can be mistaken for a bomb....we are not capable of managing nuclear fuel. period. Not that it can't be done...it could if humans could be trusted. It is not a question so much, of technology. We have that mostly, but we cannot be trusted. Human nature. Alternative fuels such as wind, geothermal, solar...they are but a pittance in the face of all of this. They will not make much more than a dent for maybe 20 years. Ok, maybe ten percent. Don't want to sound pessimistic, but this very much is a pessimistic subject. The answer is there is no answer. sorry! I had too much wine! I will now go back to lurking. e.k.