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To: Geoff Altman who wrote (50445)	8/23/2006 3:22:05 PM
From: Suma	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 90947

Thank you for those links on Greek civilizations. I loved the vases.. Wonder what it would be like to own one of those..but imagine they are only for museums.... Just great displays. Never have been to Greece but was fascinated by Mayan culture in Mexico. Some of what we may consider uncivilized were far superior to us many years ago..

To: Geoff Altman who wrote (50445)	8/24/2006 1:07:56 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 90947

I had avoided Greece because I had heard that the sites were mostly roped off- -you could look at the structures from a distance but not get on them. I have since heard this NOT the case, which changes things enormously. Probably will go their next year. In Mexico and Honduras, "fencinf off" is becoming increasingly common. I know why they do it- -tom preserve the structures. Nevertheless, it removes the pleasure and the reason for going. Nothing in Turkey was fenced off. In Mexico, you can no longer climb the Temple of the Thousand Columns at Chichen Itza. All structures at El Tajin and most at Xochicalco are fenced off. Parts od Copan in Honduras are fenced off. If they keep this up, Greece and Turkey will win.

To: Geoff Altman who wrote (50445)	8/29/2006 3:18:47 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 90947

Thera eruption was bigger still By Elli Leadbeater The second largest volcanic eruption in human history was much larger than previously thought, scientists say. The Bronze Age eruption of Thera near mainland Greece would have devastated ancient civilisations in the region. Ash would likely have plunged much of the Mediterranean into darkness, and tsunami would have wrecked local ports. A survey around what is now the island arc of Santorini shows volcanic pumice to a depth of 80m covering the ocean floor for 20-30km in all directions. A colossal scale By examining echoes from volcanic deposits on the ocean floor, researchers have shown that the Aegean eruption of Thera 3,600 years ago may have propelled 60 cubic km of magma out of the volcano's crater. The new estimates suggest that the blast was half as large again as had earlier been supposed. "It was clear that this was a very substantial eruption to begin with, but this adds an exclamation mark," says Steven Carey of the University of Rhode Island, US, a co-author on the study. The eruption dwarfs even that of Krakatoa, which ejected about 25 cubic km of molten rock, ash and pumice in 1883, killing 40,000 inhabitants of Java and Sumatra in just a few hours. Deadly tsunamis An eruption of Thera's size would have had drastic implications for the people living in the region. No bodies were found in the nearby settlement of Akrotiri, which was buried in ash in a similar way to Roman Pompeii. The city had been evacuated shortly beforehand. But giant waves from the blast would have devastated ports and coastal areas. Tsunami deposits have been found on Crete and the west coast of Turkey. During ash fallout, an area of at least 300,000 sq km would have been plunged into total darkness, say the researchers. Sulphur discharged into the atmosphere would have formed droplets, causing significant cooling of the Earth's surface. Some scientists have suggested that the eruption may be connected to the decline of the Minoan people, an ancient sea-faring civilisation living on nearby Crete. Others have even tried to link the event to the legendary disappearance of the island of Atlantis. The blast has been termed "the single most famous Aegean event before the fall of Troy"... news.bbc.co.uk news.bbc.co.uk