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Politics : Foreign Affairs Discussion Group -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: TimF who wrote (199186)8/24/2006 7:54:10 PM
From: geode00  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I'll bet you make those tiny model ships don't you?

I wouldn't be so sure (there's that concept again LOL) that we're not in a police state. Remember Gitmo? Remember rendition? Remember Padilla? Remember the protest areas far away from the political events? Remember illegal, warrantless wiretaps?

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"...According to this table compiled from DOJ statistics at the EPIC website, the FISA Court did not reject a single warrant application from its beginning in 1979 through 2002. In 2003 it rejected four applications. In 2004, the number was again zero.

So, in a quarter century, the FISA Court has rejected four government applications for warrants.....

In 2004, the number of approved warrants with "substantive modifications" was 94 out of a total of 1758.

Before the year 2000 modifications were seldom if ever made. In 2000, there was one; in 2001, two; and in 2002, there were two applications modified but those modifications were later reversed..

2003 is where the change comes."
talkingpointsmemo.com
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1. If you think ignoring FISA is not unconstitutional then why did the Bush administration go to FISA in the first place and, apparently, several thousand times?

2. Bush has declared that the US of A is in a perpetual war on terrorism. That's very convenient for the secrecy of a police state.

3. Why are you trying to become enslaved? For what purpose? The incidents of terrorism are way up since Bush took office. Exactly what do you think he's accomplishing that you would give up oversight and balance of powers for?