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To: Live2Sail who wrote (60821)	8/26/2006 12:01:08 AM
From: Moominoid	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

VWs are very popular here - upstate NY. Could be more Audis than BMWs. Also lots of Saabs. Not many Volvos. In Vermont there are even more Saabs as well as piles of Subarus. What's wrong with Saabs?

To: Live2Sail who wrote (60821)	8/26/2006 10:56:38 AM
From: Think4Yourself	Respond to of 306849

re: "They have winter in Sweden and Germany." The winter isn't the problem. Most places put sand or small gravel on the ice for traction. Detroit sits on top of a MASSIVE salt deposit so we put salt down. Salt is one of the most corrosive naturally occuring things autus have to tolerate. The Japanese csrs in the 70's didn't use double galvanized steel. Anyone who bought one around here was buying another vehicle years earlier than they expected. VW's are getting popular around here. Seeing more and more every week. Also noticing a strong trend away from trucks/vans and back to cars. The proportion on the roads has changed dramatically in the last year.