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To: epicure who wrote (27186)	8/27/2006 4:12:59 AM
From: RMF	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 542004

eleutheria...I read your whole post and you seem to be against too much control over people's lives EXCEPT if a guy wants to smoke a cigarette!! The current record holder for Oldest Person in the World is very proud of the fact that he never drank liquor. But, he WAS a smoker for 76 years. It seems that the fumes from grilling meat are more carcinogenic than any second hand cigarette fumes could EVER be. MAYBE the thing we should be objecting to is BBQ?????

To: epicure who wrote (27186)	8/28/2006 11:52:12 AM
From: TimF	Respond to of 542004

And I don't think people should be able to do harmful activities that affect others- like smoking in public places. That's an authoritarian restriction - but if you don't restrict people in this way then you basically give smokers carte blanche to assault people with their smoke. I would have less problem with such restrictions if they where limited to truly public places. Not privately owned facilities where the owner is ok with the smoking, and no non-smokers are forced to be present. If it is known that smoking is allowed at a private, non-mandatory location than no one is being assaulted by the smoke, they are freely entering a place where there will be smoke. I also think that outdoor smoking shouldn't normally face legal restriction. I understand that there is still some second hand smoke issues, but they are greatly reduced when there is no confined space to concentrate the smoke. Personally I have never smoked, and don't like smoke. Laws against smoking outside, or in restaurants etc. probably would benefit me, at least a bit. But there isn't enough justification IMO for a legal ban.