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To: Rambi who wrote (1237)9/1/2006 7:45:58 AM
From: Bread Upon The WaterRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 1695
 
Your argument consists of this.

I want women to have a choice to be what they want because that is what I want.

It doesn't speak at all to the objections I raised nor does it look at all at this change in terms of the historical perspective. While that is convenient for you, it is not a basis to build a rationale for a fundamental change in the role of the sexes. You are using feminist rhetoric to support your argument and not any kind of logic. You need to address the questions of "Why should men accept this as change?" and "Why should society accept it?" That is you (collectively) need to address it if you want men and society to accept this change as being in their interests. We don't care what your (individual) interests are. If you (collectively) can't make the case for this then why should it work?

What you (collectively) want is only possible if society grants it to you and it works for society. Do you think you can exist in a vacuum consisting only of your wants?

I understand if you are too busy right now to make the arguments that address the questions I raised, so I am willing to wait. If however you don't think the questions valid then we don't have much to discuss. However, I don't think women will be successful in changing their roles if they can't do it in a way that addresses those questions. That is why, IMHO, they need to do it.