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To: Metacomet who wrote (19726)	9/1/2006 3:47:39 PM
From: E. Charters	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 78408

Poly rant.. be warned. no, I am being serious. Bush inherited what Clinton and other presidents built. It is glib to say a president can change the economy as he has to get that past congress. Congress waters down or will not vote for bills that cut entitlements. Bush would have shrunk the economy if he made oil exploration company's cash-strapped. It was the US's only ace in the hole facing diminishing oil from overseas. They had a built in trade imbalance due to high US salaries. What were they going to do, go into cheap tV's and machine, and retail goods and sell them to Japan and china? Cut welfare to the poor? Raise taxes on a personal deficit facing middle class? Cut military spending with three brush fire wars going on.. and no draft? It's fine to say to Bush, cut spending get out of Iraq etc.. how childish.. how jejune. Get out of Iraq and Afghanistan and Iran or Syria walks in and turns off the oil and turns into a nuclear power with a guerilla terrorist agenda.. nice.. Gas hits 8 dollars at the pump... the economy goes for a shit, and you are out of a job.. so what happens? The next president demo or republican says "boys, we have to go to war again, but you are drafted..." The US has been facing a no economy world with its dollar and the control of the IMF the only smoke and mirrors holding them up the dollar up too.. when that erodes, and the hand writing is on the wall, it's all over. The free ride, the rich nation.. What do you want Bush to do about it? Tax everybody to build a military that will hold the world together for ten more years? Where is the money going to come from..? how much do you have to give? If it all goes out in taxes, what is left over to keep business and the markets alive? How can you raise taxes to over 50% corporately, and pay more than we do now for vat and income taxes? Do you want to live in Sweden circa 1980 and pay 80% personal taxes and have to make 125,000 dollars a year to own a house and a car? Bush does not make all these decisions. He has the decisions made for him by an army of advisers, and decades of history. Ask yourself what cuts a president can make in government spending... 20%? 30% or is it 3%? What does it matter? How much can you raise taxes by and on whom before you are voted out of office by the next demo pundit who falls to the fact that since you raised taxes for 4 years, he can now lower them and win the election.. nice.. The only real cuts you can make in government spending is to completely overhaul the civil service from city to federal and make a change in how they operate their budgets, (by backfilling to last year's.) Audited justified competitive expenditures are not done anywhere in the G7. If they were, government spending would fall by 60%, not 6%. You can run a government or any crown corporation on 1/3 of the employees and half the money easily. My father was an Ontario Hydro exec in charge of consumer service. He told me that Ontario Hydro was in charge of 30,000 employees. He said that it could be run well with 12,000. All the rest was graft, bloat, union, and government pork barrels. But a president cannot do that, as he does not have the mandate. He would have to go to Congress and they feel their seats and won't agree. Mulroney and Wilson tried to do it and they got rioting in Ottawa and they were told that the civil service, now some 3 million voters, were numerous enough to vote them out of office if they continued. Now no government gets elected if they don't talk pork to snivel slurvants. The evil of the Bush tax cuts to rich oil companies is just hooey. Asinine. Oil companies don't make more than any other industry on their investment. If they were to produce more oil desperately needed for domestic usage, they needed the cuts. And guess what, they will need more if you want to keep the lights on your Cadillac home. The only people who can cut taxes and government spending and reform the civil service are the voters. Proposition 13. Remember? EC<:-}

To: Metacomet who wrote (19726)	9/1/2006 4:13:04 PM
From: koan	Respond to of 78408

Well said metacomet. I also felt the same about Cox. I have posted this once, but Bush's Harvard MBA professor said he got his citizneship so he could speak out about bush. A Japanese fellow, he said bush was in the bottom 10% of his class, was a blatant pathological liar and was a true elitist. Night after night the Daily show, Steven colbert and Keith Olberman show things bush has said recently and then they dig up old clips which show the lies. Cheney is even worse, if that is possible. Anyone who cannot see just how dangerous bush is and what a lier he is is not paying attention. And even from a military view invading Iraq was nuts. Iraq was the counter balance to Iran. And bush by invading Iraq destabilized the middle east and fomented a civil war which and like custer he has put our troops right in the middle of a suicide situation. Rigth between the sunni and shia killing each other. I believe you are right. Worst president ever, and may suceed in starting world war III. Everything he and his neocons have predicted has been wrong, so why would he be right now-lol? He has no idea what he is doing and his group just terroize the populace to win elections. It is so transparent. I respect people like you speaking out metacomet. It is so necessary right now.