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To: Ichy Smith who wrote (201622)	9/6/2006 5:49:00 PM
From: geode00	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Then stop calling Israel the only democracy in the ME. It's a limited democracy out to mow down other democracies because it is, in essence, out to get the RESULTS it wants. Rightwingers constantly moan and whine that liberals want equal results, not equal opportunity. The exact same problem exists with Israeli democracy. You guys want the RESULT regardless of how it offends the PROCESS.

To: Ichy Smith who wrote (201622)	9/7/2006 2:10:42 AM
From: Elroy	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

However in some of the surrounding countries, that is not the practise. How do you guarantee the right of Israelis to live, own property, and practise their religion when in most Muslim countries Human Rights are determined by what size rock they use to kill you. How do you expect any sane person to put their rights into the hands of Muslims, particularly if you are jewish? Look at the record of the Muslims to date. Muslims don't believe in anyones rights but their own. And you are simple enough to say, "Oh it should only be one state." Other than lebanon, the weakest link in the middle east, which country has any rights for jews. Making Israel into one state controlled by Muslims is the same as offering to ship in ovens to solve the problem. If you believe the above it raises the question of why would any sane Jewish person want to live in a country which is surrounded by these intolerant, blood thirsty Muslims? The Muslim neighbors obviously aren't going away, and your post indicates that the Muslim neighbors aren't going to reform into a more tolerant group, so the only conclusion is endless warfare between 6 million Israelis and 200 million surrounding Muslims. Why should the USA support that plan?