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To: Elroy who wrote (201688)	9/7/2006 4:33:39 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

When Jews started buying land in the Israel area, there weren't very many Arabs and Moslems around. It was only after the formation of Israel and in the late 20th century that the huge numbers were born, funded in large part by loads of valuable oil. Google no doubt has the numbers somewhere. I agree, it seems a dodgy move as a small black ant colony to decide to move in among hordes of red ants. The silly "promised land" nonsense obviously gave them a dangerous superstitious idea. There is no "promised land". There is no deity giving them the word. Those who believe that are gullible, like those who believe Islamic Jihad's superstitions. Most people seem to be gullible and will follow the nearest leader who looks pretty tough, much like chickens imprint on the nearest moving thing as being Mum. I suppose that's just another version of Stockholm Syndrome, but considered not just acceptable, or desirable, but obviously a good thing. Mqurice

To: Elroy who wrote (201688)	9/7/2006 6:05:10 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Sure enough. If you go back to the 19th century, there were not many people around the area compared with by the end of WWII and the numbers since have been huge. So, what existed 100 years ago bears little relationship to what is there now. It doesn't seem to me that at the time of Jewish immigration it was such a dopey idea for Jews to set up shop there [from a purely demographic point of view]. mideastweb.org At that time, they couldn't have known that Moslems in Indonesia would blow up Bali and Jihad from Iran would be after their throats. Nor even that Egypt would get all steamed up. Saudi Arabia was a relatively empty land over some desert somewhere, not a vast oil-rich Islamic Jihad zone loaded with imported supersonic weaponry and umpty million people. I'll check Saudi Arabia's historical population, just for fun. I can't imagine hunting around in the desert would have supported many millions. Google had some info = something like 1 million in the 19th century getting up to around 2 million in the early 20th century and 26 million now. 1 million Bedouin way over there in the 19th century and even 2 million doing their desert thing in the early 20th century wouldn't have looked too bad from the far west by the Mediterranean. 26 million armed to the teeth with $70 a barrel vast reserves and fancy modern military equipment is another matter altogether. Mqurice

To: Elroy who wrote (201688)	9/7/2006 9:27:19 AM
From: Ichy Smith	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

If you believe the above it raises the question of why would any sane Jewish person want to live in a country which is surrounded by these intolerant, blood thirsty Muslims? The Muslim neighbors obviously aren't going away, and your post indicates that the Muslim neighbors aren't going to reform into a more tolerant group, so the only conclusion is endless warfare between 6 million Israelis and 200 million surrounding Muslims. Why should the USA support that plan? The short answer is because it is right to support the plan. Every American lives on stolen land. Let us discuss returning Israel to the Palestinians, and now what about Texas, and California? Mexico would like them back, i am sure. Alaska belong to the Russians, but before that it belonged to the natives, shall we return that as well. There are vast expanses of the Midwest ceded by treaty to the Natives and then stolen, do we give that back as well? Parts of France belonged to England, how do we approach that? How far back do you want to take this policy? As someone with some native blood i would like all the Muslims off my property. What do you think?