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Politics : Bush-The Mastermind behind 9/11? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Don Earl who wrote (15262)	9/9/2006 2:54:14 PM
From: JBTFD	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20039

One thing I noticed about both flight 93 movies is that they make a point of stressing in roundabout ways that the shoot down theory could not have happened. They state that: 1. the planes were too far away 2. the planes were unarmed 3. the order had not been given 4. that only the president could have given that order I have a question for you. I listened to this radio4all.net; hour 1 last week and the guy was presenting that the official story about whether the military knew about hijacked planes and when they knew has been changed recently. I would be interested on your take on this, if you have the time. The point he makes is that if the new story is true, then so many people along the way that vouched for the old story all lied.

To: Don Earl who wrote (15262)	9/9/2006 3:02:23 PM
From: atm_prophet	Respond to of 20039

I think 911 woke up Americans of the total shambles this government was really in. Our false sense of security. Didn't we all assume we had some type of missile defense system around D.C.? Didn't we think that the CIA/FBI and other governmental agencies would have known of a plot of this magnitude and prevented it? There is so much blame to go around and Katrina, just exploited the reality even further. We have much to do to put our house in order. The job is so large that it will take a unified effort to make real in-roads. All this partisan politics is such a cancer to America's call and survival. 911 exposed to Americans that our government was complacent in it's arrogance that no one would dare hit us in our homeland. Both Democrats and Republicans. There is no doubt that Clinton was not proactive and allowed the threat to gather. It is obvious that Bush, in his first 8 or 9 months just followed the same complacent concepts. Bush did however, become fully involved and right or wrong, at least we are waking up from our slumber and coming to grasp of the world and growing threats. Truly the inmates are running the asylum when it comes to the radical elements of Islam. We can no longer ignore them and think it will pass if we just don't engage them. In the good ole late 90's when the stock market was going nuts and Americans were feeling all flush and healthy, these threats were fully engaged , executing and continually plotting to hit us fatally. We were asleep, oblivious, and could not imagine what was being planned. The 93 WTC attack, the embassies, Somalia and others were evidence and we did nothing. Kissinger had it right when he said we needed to maximize our support of moderate Islam and marginalize the radicals. This threat has been on the radar for some time now. But unbridled, it grew and strengthened and was able to pull off 911 and much more. Disrupting it's ability to communicate and hunting them down now world wide is a step in the right direction. But not the solution. It is crisis management and temporary in it's effects. We need to work with moderate nations of Islam and not allow what happened in Lebanon to gain traction. When a terrorist group like Hezbollah begins to speak for a nation, we have serious problems. Moderate Islamic nations should not by default allow the strongman to become it's mouthpiece. What happens when the capacity of these groups do possess a nuke? They won't be throwing suicide bombers at us, but true WMD's and they have proven, they conviction to use them. And I don't think we can just label the suiciders as crazy adolescence wanting to be with their 72 virgins tonight. We need to look much deeper into the motivations and deal with that reality, as unsettling as that is. That is why Iran is front and center on the stage now. IT is that threat .... and we should be talking to them because the price goes up everyday they get closer to nuclear capabilities. Their rhetoric about wiping Israel off the face of the map should be taken very literally. But we should be supporting the opposing voices within Iran and helping empower that segment. A military solution should be the very last resort .... Hopefully, we never go there.