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To: SARMAN who wrote (202522)	9/11/2006 10:09:48 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Unfortunately, people like you that encourage the cancer growth. We're encouraging it??? You're the ones who, UNTIL AL-QAI'DA WAS KILLING MUSLIMS IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN, refused to even acknowledge that you had a problem!!! EVEN NOW you can't accept responsibility for their presence in your midst. It's the fault of the West.. It's the fault of the Americans.. It's anyone else's fault, but your own!! And ain't just the way the Arab mindset treats every problem?? They never want to peer within the darker regions of their hearts and acknowledge that they harbor some major repressed insecurities and lack of self-esteem that prevent you (as a ethnic whole) from unharnessing yourselves from your medieval thinking and taking up the bridle of intellectual progress and making an actual positive contribution to the global community of peoples. And this is NOT to impugn all Muslims, because I have known many, both Arab and non-Arab, and they tend to concur that Arab muslims have a far different mindset than non-Arabs. No.. this is the Arab mindset that, as Raphael Petai noted, can't handle the fact that they have lost their global position of power, achieved long ago, against the European powers. They hold this incredibly stupid belief that the master has become the slave and that the West has deliberately attempted to "hold you back" and dominate you... Thus, you hate EVERYTHING that is western derived.. Everything is a Western "infection" that needs to be excised from the Muslim Umma. But, as Petai also notes, you don't hold this same hatred against the Turks, despite the fact that the Ottomans DIRECTLY REPRESSED AND DOMINATED THE ARABS FOR OVER 400 years and SUCKED THE LIFE OUT OF ARAB MODERNIZATION. Explain that for me Sarman? Why isn't there a tremendous Arab hatred and lust for revenge upon the Turks? Is it because the Turks are muslims and they still fought against the Western nations and were once the seat of the Caliphate? Think how much the American taxpayers are paying for the war in Iraq. For a fraction of the price the US would have solved any problem with negotiation. Negotiate WHAT?? Our surrender? Or the surrender of an entire region holding 2/3rds of the global oil supply to Islamo-Fascists fanatic seeking to create an Arab EMPIRE (not federation/confederation).. Let me repeat that.. Islamo-Fascists want an (predominantly) Arab EMPIRE, the Caliphate. And they want to EXPAND THAT EMPIRE. So we're supposed to "negotiate" where we actually permit them to develop an actual soveriegn presence by their overthrowing Kingdoms and other governments in the region? As we supposed to negotiate by permitting them to gain nuclear weapons and potentially engaging in a nuclear war in their manic attempts to destroy Israel? It isn't fear-mongering when people like you find it more conduscive to move to the West than fight against these fanatics who are taking over your homelands. That is, assuming you have any desire to oppose them. Most likely you just don't want to face the monster that is growing in your midst. You just hope he ignores you, or that you can find a comfortable place to hide while someone else has to deal with it. Islamo-Fascist thought is an outgrowth of "the mother of all inferiority complexes". It is an Arab condition that prevents you from accepting non-muslims as your equals, or believing there is anything worth learning from the west. Your view of progress and perfection is crawling back into your religious "wombs" and recreating past "glories". And if you disagree.. look at Japan, my friend. There is a country that went from a Feudal agrarian society to becoming the second largest economy on the face of the earth. And they did it in a little over a hundred years, including having to rebuild themselves after their foolishness of WWII. And if that isn't convincing enough for you, then look at S. Korea, which had been the colonial slaves of foreign masters for most of its existence. So why haven't the Arabs, with all of that oil, been able to accomplish the same thing? You all share the same "shame" based social structure where honor is held sacred.. Why were they able to achieve modernization and progress that CONTINUES TO ELUDE THE ARAB WORLD?? Yeah.. you have a reason to possess an inferiority complex. And you can b*tch and moan about "the man be holding you down" all you want. But the reality is that "the man" is trying to set you FREE from the chains by which you have bound YOURSELVES!! Because your religious, cultural, economic, and politicals values are 1300 years old!! They haven't changed to meet reality, as other religious faiths have. Think about that Sarman.. Think about that they next time you think about unleashing the "barking dogs" within your soul and raging about how everyone is screwing over the Arabs. And think about that the next time you wonder why that little Jewish state, with very little oil, is able to achieve far greater productivity than your Arab brethren in the region (who possess all of that tremendous oil wealth). Hawk