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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (202526)	9/11/2006 10:49:00 AM
From: Keith Feral	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Glenn Beck was talking about the caliphate and 12 imam the other night on his radio show. Amazingly, my wife turned to me and made positive comments about the guy. She's a bit of a bleeding heart liberal. Anyways, she immediately sensed the truth in what he was speaking about regarding the religous totalitarianism of the Muslims. I have to be honest that I haven't googled the caliphate or 12th imam yet to figure out much of the background. Suffice to say, the unifying principles of Islam attempt to enslave or unify all Muslims into a single leadership. I wonder how this differs from the apocolyptic visions of Christianity where God sits in final judgement on Earth as the single leader.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (202526)	9/11/2006 6:44:51 PM
From: SARMAN	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

HHAWK, COME ON, you are quoting Raphael Petai. LOL That really show where you get your hatred. It like me quoting "jewwatch.com" before I knew what they are all about. We're encouraging it??? You're the ones who, UNTIL AL-QAI'DA WAS KILLING MUSLIMS IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN, refused to even acknowledge that you had a problem!!! Yep Saddam was number one fan of OBL and vise versa. It was the US that opened the ground for AQ to breed in Iraq. It was the US that used to finance AQ to fight the Soviets, no evidence though that I can produce but AQ and Taliban used US made ground to air missiles against the US invasion of Afghanistan. You can make you own conclusion. The US is providing a fertile ground for them to flourish. No.. this is the Arab mindset that, as Raphael Petai noted, can't handle the fact that they have lost their global position of power, achieved long ago, against the European powers. They hold this incredibly stupid belief that the master has become the slave and that the West has deliberately attempted to "hold you back" and dominate you... Thus, you hate EVERYTHING that is western derived.. Everything is a Western "infection" that needs to be excised from the Muslim Umma. Yet you contradict your statement by stating (Negotiate WHAT?? Our surrender? Or the surrender of an entire region holding 2/3rds of the global oil supply to Islamo-Fascists fanatic seeking to create an Arab EMPIRE (not federation/confederation)ALSOSo we're supposed to "negotiate" where we actually permit them to develop an actual soveriegn presence by their overthrowing Kingdoms and other governments in the region? As we supposed to negotiate by permitting them to gain nuclear weapons and potentially engaging in a nuclear war in their manic attempts to destroy Israel? Either you are confused or you are just giving us lip, which one is it? So all you care about is OIL and ISRAEL. Please stop fooling yourself by saying that you care and you want to spread democracy. The ME is in worse shape than it was before BUSH pledged to turn it to democracy. Did you the word ISLAMO-FASCISTS before Bush spewed it when his popularity in the US and the world was going in the toilet? But you are a good American you repeat what the leader of free world says with out knowing what it means, literary and morally?