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To: RMF who wrote (22921)9/13/2006 9:52:00 PM
From: PROLIFE  Respond to of 35834
 
It wasn't the MSM that divided the country and the WORLD. It was the IDIOT Bush.

why not take that towel off your head Akmed and shine your goat up for your big date.



To: RMF who wrote (22921)9/14/2006 1:06:36 PM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
<< "It wasn't the MSM that divided the country and the WORLD. It was the IDIOT Bush." >>

Cut the "idiot" crap. No more warnings.

As for the assertion, how about a few prime examples showing how Bush divided the country.

Do it with verbatim quotes supported by links. Don't give me more of your baseless opinions or some 3rd party opinions. Just give me real, hard core, bad boy Bush in his own words dividing the country.

If it really is his fault, that should be like picking low hanging fruit.

I bet you utterly fail.



To: RMF who wrote (22921)9/14/2006 1:58:56 PM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 35834
 
You said Saddam should have been left in charge in Iraq and you favor putting him back in power. If that isn't pro-Saddam, what do you have to do to be pro-Saddam?

What do you think we should have done or should do in Afghanistan?

As I remember Gore's 2003 antiwar speech was possibly the first turn of the mainstream Democrats. Gradually other Democrats and the press began to follow his lead, becoming ever more strident and oppositional to the administration, until undercutting important components of the war on terror (like the NSA foreign call wire-tapping and the tracing of foreign banking transactions) itself became fashionable.



To: RMF who wrote (22921)9/15/2006 4:56:50 AM
From: Sully-  Respond to of 35834
 
So we’re divided — is that George Bush’s fault?

Byron York
The Hill

Ask yourself this question: What actions, or series of actions, could President Bush and GOP leaders in Congress have taken in the war on terror that would cause Democratic leaders to say, seven weeks before mid-term elections, “We are all united in a common effort to defeat the enemy. President Bush and Republicans in the House and Senate have brought us together like never before. We see no need to change leadership.”

Can you argue, with a straight face, that there is there any set of circumstances imaginable today, five years after September 11, that would lead to such a statement?

I didn’t think so.

So why do so many people accuse George W. Bush of “politicizing” the war on terror? That war is just the biggest issue facing the United States today, and has been for five years. How could it not be — how should it not be — an issue for intense debate by, well, politicians?

After the president’s 9/11 anniversary speech, Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) released a statement which read, in full:

<<< “The president should be ashamed of using a national day of mourning to commandeer the airwaves to give a speech that was designed not to unite the country and commemorate the fallen but to seek support for a war in Iraq that he has admitted had ‘nothing’ to do with 9/11. There will be time to debate this president’s policies in Iraq. September 11th is not that time.” >>>

By my count — actually by Microsoft Word’s count — the president’s speech was 2,623 words long. Of those words, 516, or a little less than one-fifth of the total, were devoted to Iraq.

The other four-fifths were devoted to general memories of September 11, to the government’s efforts to make the American public safer, and to the president’s steadfast belief that the spread of democracy will end terrorism — all perfectly reasonable topics.

But it also seems perfectly reasonable to argue that if the president were to give a speech about national security on the anniversary of September 11, that part of that speech — perhaps a little less than one-fifth — should be devoted to Iraq.

In fact, given that the war is a major part of the government’s strategy in the post-9/11 world, wouldn’t it have seemed a little weird if Bush’s speech hadn’t mentioned Iraq at all?

Not, apparently, to the Democratic leadership in Congress. Talking about Iraq in a speech on September 11 amounts to “politicizing” a national tragedy.

Okay. So how, looking back on the last five years, could Bush have made Democrats happier?

What could he have done that would have brought Democrats together with Republicans in one united effort to defeat our terrorist enemies?

Listen to virtually any Democrat and you’ll hear the answer: He should have stuck to Afghanistan.

“We all voted to go into Afghanistan,” House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said recently. “We should have stayed there to get the job done. Instead, the president chose to be distracted from catching Osama bin Laden, Mullah Omar, the head of the Taliban, and now, as was described earlier, Afghanistan is in a dreadful, dreadful situation.”

“He took our eye off the ball in Afghanistan,” Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) said of Dick Cheney after the vice president’s recent appearance on “Meet the Press.”

“Congress responded in a bipartisan way [after 9/11],” Senate Minority Whip Richard Durbin (D-Ill.) said recently, “overwhelmingly giving the president the authority to go to war against al Qaeda, the Taliban in Afghanistan. We all stood together in that. We understood the enemy. We understood what we had to do.”

But now, Democrats say, we are bogged down in a giant distraction in Iraq. We should have kept our focus on Afghanistan.

But imagine this.

Imagine that George W. Bush had remained focused like a laser beam on the war in Afghanistan.

Not content with toppling the Taliban, he sent 130,000 U.S. troops to Afghanistan in a determined effort to kill or capture every single member of al Qaeda.

He accomplished much, but Osama bin Laden remained in hiding, somewhere in the world’s most inhospitable territory in Afghanistan or Pakistan.

Meanwhile, resentment against the American presence built.

An insurgency rose up, using improvised explosive devices and suicide bombers to kill U.S. soldiers. The American death toll mounted.

Now, do you believe that, if that had happened, Democrats would still be supporting the president’s policy in Afghanistan?

Do you believe that Pelosi, Reid, Durbin, and others would not be accusing George W. Bush of pursuing a misguided strategy in the war on terror, charging that the president was so obsessed with tracking down every last terrorist in Afghanistan that he ignored threats from places like Iran, North Korea, and — yes — Saddam Hussein’s Iraq?

Do you believe that Democrats today, seven weeks before Election Day, would be united behind the president?

I didn’t think so.

York is a White House correspondent for National Review. His column appears in The Hill each week. E-mail: byork@nationalreview.com

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